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60. How is possession defined?

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:28 AM

Mar 2013

One of the things I find interesting about all laws involving possession of anything contraband is how they determine a person to be possessing something. I imagine that most of the classmates are going to make statements similar to the kid in the article that it was sent to them, they saw it, and then they deleted it. Is that an adequate defense? Would a jury convict someone whose only action seems to have been receiving a message? I suspect that transmission of the file is going to be a lot more of slam dunk for prosecutors.

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Parent: Topless photo of female student circulating among students at Northland middle school [View all] pstokely Mar 2013 OP

When you send something to others, you lose total control over what happens to it. liberal N proud Mar 2013 #1

Precisely Sherman A1 Mar 2013 #4

Thanks for the thread, pstokely... KansDem Mar 2013 #2

Same as you;.... ReRe Mar 2013 #9

Unfortunately, that cat is out of the bag ... Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #3

And take away her cell phone marshall Mar 2013 #5

Hopefully, she learns from this. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #6

Any interest in the people who wronged her learning anything? Posteritatis Mar 2013 #50

Of course, but my first and foremost concern was how she deals with this. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #53

Thank god that internet wasn't what it is today when I was in grade school. Chakab Mar 2013 #7

Most likely this action could be a class A felony. alp227 Mar 2013 #24

Hopefully that won't happen... octothorpe Mar 2013 #56

The law linked in 34 says that for minors it's a class A misdemeanor punishable by a fine.... JVS Mar 2013 #61

It is probably not child pronography here. Spartacus Maximus XL Mar 2013 #76

Will the girl who sent the picture of herself be charged with anything? Orrex Mar 2013 #8

I say give her a Jitterbug... ReRe Mar 2013 #10

A couple things on this. timdog44 Mar 2013 #11

During adolescence most kids rebel to one extent or another. redqueen Mar 2013 #28

And I agree with that. timdog44 Mar 2013 #32

Mixed feellings about this.... groundloop Mar 2013 #12

Agree with you about the culture. bitchkitty Mar 2013 #14

If only her humiliation could be publicized nationally. bluedigger Mar 2013 #13

And, indeed, encouraged by most of the readers here. (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2013 #43

Again and again and again :( Catherina Mar 2013 #15

Horrible! blackspade Mar 2013 #17

The parents didn't know in time :( Catherina Mar 2013 #30

I meant the parents of the bullies. blackspade Mar 2013 #33

Most parents of bullies are either in denial or in favor. (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2013 #44

Damn. Poor girl. davidthegnome Mar 2013 #71

I think it says so much about our schools. Catherina Mar 2013 #77

As an adult I can handle it. davidthegnome Mar 2013 #78

That's just awful :( Catherina Mar 2013 #80

It goes back to the industrial revolution. davidthegnome Mar 2013 #82

I'm happy you're trying to make a difference and become an educator Catherina Mar 2013 #85

Hard to have any sympathy for her since she took it herself and shared it Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #16

Wow. Nasty. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #18

Maybe a little too harsh on my part, but what else can really be done? Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #20

Criticism for the victim and nothing to say about the piece of shit victimizers. redqueen Mar 2013 #21

I can criticize both Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #22

Yeah, but you didn't. redqueen Mar 2013 #23

Funny, I thought the person who chose to publicly humiliate her set things in motion. Posteritatis Mar 2013 #45

Oh come the hell on... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #48

You're really invested in exonerating the victimizers, aren't you. (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2013 #49

Nope; just in pointing out the girl isn't totally blameless in this Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #79

I think everyone can agree the victimizers are beyond pieces of shit joeglow3 Mar 2013 #25

It's common sense that boys and men can't be trusted? redqueen Mar 2013 #27

That is fine joeglow3 Mar 2013 #37

I wouldn't trust a 12-year-old to do anything. jeff47 Mar 2013 #46

When it comes to teen boys and nude pics of women NickB79 Mar 2013 #83

And none of them will say its wrong, because rape culture. redqueen Mar 2013 #84

I knew it! oldhippie Mar 2013 #86

Pity you can't see the connection yourself. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #87

She's a kid Shivering Jemmy Mar 2013 #29

good point... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #36

So, every single decision you made at age 13 Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #62

In a decent society, perhaps... davidthegnome Mar 2013 #73

We need to do a lot more talking about rape culture. redqueen Mar 2013 #19

This ... ^^^ ... ! In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #26

Yeah, the unanimity of the victim-blaming in this thread is frankly frightening. Posteritatis Mar 2013 #42

They're 12-14 years old. jeff47 Mar 2013 #47

Newsflash to everyone. There is no privacy on the INTERNET. NOTHING that you wouldn't ladjf Mar 2013 #31

Parents really need to educate their children maddezmom Mar 2013 #34

How is possession defined? JVS Mar 2013 #60

What I'd like to know... Archae Mar 2013 #35

Yeah! Most 13 year olds are, like, geniuses who never make mistakes! redqueen Mar 2013 #38

I think you may answered your own question maddezmom Mar 2013 #39

What I'm Reading RobinA Mar 2013 #81

and this deserves to be LBN on DU because... lanlady Mar 2013 #40

The one reason maybe it was left is awareness of sexting laws maddezmom Mar 2013 #41

I told my kids COUNTLESS times, NEVER, NEVER benld74 Mar 2013 #51

In our schools, the kids are lectured on this with some regularity... DollarBillHines Mar 2013 #52

And it's GOING to happen Tien1985 Mar 2013 #54

I wonder what makes these kids think that it is OK to forward these pics? DollarBillHines Mar 2013 #55

I'm willing to bet they knew it was wrong octothorpe Mar 2013 #57

The part that objectifies women. redqueen Mar 2013 #63

This scares me olddots Mar 2013 #58

The student who made the photo should be charged with producing child pornography... JVS Mar 2013 #59

What if it was the student herself, taking a self portrait? Quantess Mar 2013 #64

The world needs more 13-year-olds receiving life prison sentences. JackRiddler Mar 2013 #67

Terrible idea. She's not a criminal. She's just a dumb kid. Dash87 Mar 2013 #68

Okay, so she was topless. Quantess Mar 2013 #65

"A parent" and "41 Action News" are creating a moral panic... JackRiddler Mar 2013 #66

I don't think people realize how common this is. Most times it doesn't make the news. redqueen Mar 2013 #70

Stories like this should never make the news. MineralMan Mar 2013 #69

I don't know what difference it would make davidthegnome Mar 2013 #72

It would make a huge difference. MineralMan Mar 2013 #74

Keep in mind--the girl herself is not the one complaining marshall Mar 2013 #75

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