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In reply to the discussion: Texas DA slain in his home; had armed himself [View all]Omaha Steve
(109,692 posts)22. I only mention the Carcano because JFK tried to ban it when he was a US Senator
If he had been successful....
I made no mention of taking arms away from anyone. Again I pointed out his training and being armed didn't help. Futile seems like the correct word. End of line.
No I don't know about the serial numbers. I'm not a gun nut. Just a gun owner tired of DUer's gone rouge on any form of reform.
Your the one that hijacked the thread by putting words in my mouth. Insult? Send it to a jury.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/51162763/ns/msnbc-rachel_maddow_show/t/rachel-maddow-show-tuesday-march-th/
So, there`s lots going on in the world and lots to get it this hour, but we
begin tonight with this.
This is a piece of legislature introduced by John F. Kennedy when John F.
Kennedy was a senator from Massachusetts. We remember JFK now as a remark
remarkably young president, right? A fresh face, an outsider defeating the
old establishment guy, the vice president Richard Nixon.
But John F. Kennedy was not new to Washington when he won the White House.
He had been a congressman, first elected in 1946, then a senator elected
first in 1952 and reelected in 1958. And while he was a senator, in that
year that he was running for reelection in 1958, John F. Kennedy introduced
this legislature. It was a bill to ban the importing into the United
States of guns or ammunition that were originally manufactured for military
purposes. So, we are talking about foreign weapons made for foreign
military use being sold to civilians here in the United States.
Now, the most popular weapon like that at the time looked like this. It`s
an Italian rifle called a Carkano or it sometimes called a non-liquor
Carkano. This was the most popular foreign firearm, originally
manufactured for military purposes that was sold in the United States at
the time that John F. Kennedy introduced a bill that would have banned the
sale of this gun.
If you want to get a better look at this gun, here`s another view. The man
holding the rifle is in this photo is Lee Harvey Oswald who went on to kill
John F. Kennedy with that gun in 1963. Mr. Oswald bought that gun by mail
legally using a coupon he clipped out of the American rifleman magazine,
which is the magazine of the NRA. Lee Harvey Oswald was able to buy that
gun he used to kill the president because of the bill that JFK introduced
that would have banned the sale was defeated by the NRA. Oswald bought the
gun in March 1963. He killed President Kennedy with it in November of that
year. This year marks 50 years since the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
In the aftermath of his assassination, there was a great impetuous to
reform the laws around guns in this country. Gallup polling after the
president`s death in 1963 showed that more than 80 percent of the country
wanted Congress to enact the strictest gun restrictions possible.
But nothing happened. The new president, LBJ, tried mightily to get gun
reform passed in the wake of the JFK assassination, but they were not able
to get anything through Congress. Even after the assassination of the
president by a gun that was bought legally by his assassin that would not
have been legal to buy under that president`s own gun control proposal.
That apparently was not enough.
It was not until the president`s brother was also assassinated and Martin
Luther King Jr. was assassinated in 1968 than anything did finally get done
at the federal level. And even then, it was just barely which LBJ
announced bitterly upon passage of the bill that he did finally get
through.
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The Koch Brothers are extremely dangerous to the survival of a democracy. They are a Trojan Horse,
RKP5637
Apr 2013
#27
I was actually wondering the same thing, hearing about three or four this month alone. (nt)
Posteritatis
Apr 2013
#25
So "it still did him no good"? And logically his gun should have been taken away from him?
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#5
So why, exactly, did you say "Veteran with a gun for protection and it still did him no good"?
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#8
I only mention the Carcano because JFK tried to ban it when he was a US Senator
Omaha Steve
Apr 2013
#22
It's a false equivalency to equate asking questions with "putting words in (your) mouth".
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#33
Forget the type of gun. The argument goes against the idea that guns are de-facto protection.
randome
Apr 2013
#30
In claiming he created a strawman, you just created one yourself. He never said or implied that
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#75
What are the significant operational differences between a Carcano and a Remington 700?
Marengo
Apr 2013
#58
No, as that topic has no relation with that which I am addressing in this thread.
Marengo
Apr 2013
#65
US jobs, or gun control, you got a choice provided by a 2nd amendment supporter
Omaha Steve
Apr 2013
#66
Already posted: I only mention the Carcano because JFK tried to ban it when he was a US Senator
Omaha Steve
Apr 2013
#79
100% of ALL gun deaths could be prevented with a 100% ban of all bullets/guns in the streets
graham4anything
Apr 2013
#20
I just browse these stories anymore to see if the usual NRA assholes are spinning it...
Comrade_McKenzie
Apr 2013
#39
This one seems to be riling the gun nut assholes up into state of high froth
alcibiades_mystery
Apr 2013
#41
Scary stuff. Cops are armed and get shot, too. No one is safe from horrific violence.
Blandocyte
Apr 2013
#42