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freshwest

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44. Well, I'll just haul this one out for those who want it:
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 03:37 PM
Apr 2013
Thom Hartmann: Conservative Millennials, Boomers & Libertarians all being Conned

Multigenerational political influence by a very narrow special interest group is rare, but we're seeing it played out right now in front of us. A billionaire family - the Kochs - have gone from influencing my father's generation, to my generation, to my kids' generation - and very few Americans realize it. Daddy Koch - Fred - made his first millions palling around with Joe Stalin in the Soviet Union in the 1920s and 1930s. As the fascists rose to power in Europe in the 1930s, he was an enthusiastic supporter of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, who invented the word "fascist," meaning essentially the takeover of democratic governments by big business interests. Mussolini went so far as to dissolve the Italian parliament, and replace elected politicians with representatives of each district's largest corporations. Fred Koch and Mussolini both particularly hated the trade unionists and their sometimes allies, the communists. So after Mussolini, along with his ally Hitler, lost World War II against America, Fred Koch brought the anti-communist pro-business-running-goverment - what some would call "facist" - torch to America big time, helping start the John Birch Society.

Two of their biggest efforts are pretty well known. After the Supreme Court ruled, in 1954, in the Brown versus Board of Education case, that segregation in schools was unconstitutional, the John Birch Society put up billboards all across America calling for the impeachment of the Chief Justice of the Court, Earl Warren. Daddy Fred Koch was very concerned about the integration of our schools - in fact, he wrote, "The colored man looms large in the Communist plan to take over America." With JFK's election, Fred Koch's John Birch Society went off again - this time against JFK. Using rhetoric not that different from the "secret Muslim" plots the Tea Party promotes about Obama, in a 1963 speech Fred said that " infiltrate the highest offices of government in the U.S. until the President is a Communist, unknown to the rest of us.”

When JFK was scheduled to come to Dallas that year, the JBS distributed flyers saying, "Wanted, for Treason" all around the town two days before his arrival. On the day JFK was assassinated, large ads ran in the Dallas newspapers attacking Kennedy as being soft on Castro, among other things. That was my dad's generation. Daddy Koch died, and his sons Charles and David took over the family business of promoting the business and billionaire takeover of our American government.

They're doing it with a two-pronged attack. For people over forty, they're funding the Tea Party through a variety of groups, most notably Americans for Prosperity and Freedomworks. And for people under forty, they're funding Libertarian think tanks, like the Charles Koch Foundation (which was renamed as the Cato Institute), and the Reason Foundation, where David Koch is a trustee, which happily embraces a new generation of young people with the idea that "freedom" means the "freedom" to buy politicians and the "freedom" to pollute. For the young people, of course, the Libertarians throw in the "freedom" to smoke dope and hire a hooker, but those are just bones being cynically tossed to young potheads and young protoge's of Dick Morris.

But the Koch's have been inside the Libertarian movement from its beginning - 32 years ago this year, David Koch was the Libertarian Party's official candidate for Vice President of the United States. It's really pretty incredible, but it's all true. The main agenda of the Koch's John Birch Society was to enhance the power and control of our government by big business and billionaires, while fighting organized labor and people like me who were protesting the Vietnam War. The main agenda of the Koch's Tea Party is to get millionaires elected to Congress and have them cut taxes and regulations for Koch Industries and other polluting corporations, while fighting organized labor and people like me who were protesting the Iraq War.

And the main agenda of the Koch's Libertarians - again, funded and trained by the Koch Brothers - is to keep intact the power of big money over our government, cut taxes and regulations on billionaires and polluting industries, while fighting organized labor and people like me who are protesting the corporate takeover of the United States of America. Three generations of Americans, all duped by the same billionaire family. Three generations buying into the idea that "what's best for industry and billionaires is best for America" - and that government is our "enemy" rather than something that our nation's founders fought and died to create for all of "We The People" And, increasingly, it's not just the Koch family. The Walton family - whose combined wealth is greater than 40 percent of all Americans - funded a covert campaign to rename the estate tax as the "death tax" and lobbied so hard they got the estate tax eliminated entirely in 2010.

Senator Bernie Sanders pointed out yesterday that - so far - we know of 26 billionaires - worth over $146 billion - who have already "invested" or committed to invest over $561 million dollars in this election cycle - most of it to defeat Democrats who want to raise their taxes. The good news is that young people are waking up and realizing that the Libertarian hustle the billionaires are feeding them is just that - a hustle. Just like Tea Partiers are waking up to their having been had by billionaires who want to privatize their Social Security. Hopefully, soon, America will regain its sanity and we'll go back to viewing cranky billionaires the way my Dad's generation did - as Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower did - when Eisenhower referred to their ilk as "small in number and stupid" They're not stupid any more, and if we really value American traditions, we really must push back on this kind of power and influence in American politics.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101744227

For all we know, this is what JFK was talking about before he was murdered. The JBS was after him and posted wanted for treason signs in Dallas the week that he was killed. The atmosphere had been made toxic. JFK served in WW2 and may have known about this family and their designs on doing what Roosevelt's VP Wallace said how American fascism could become reality:

"The really dangerous American fascist... is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence.

His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power...

They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest.

Their final objective, toward which all their deceit is directed, is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection."

~ U.S. Vice President Henry A. Wallace, quoted in the New York Times, April 9, 1944

They are the force behind a lot of disinformation and hatred.

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Feels like a whole lot of assassination going on lately. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #1
They've been talking about it for some time now. longship Apr 2013 #3
Nope, this what much of this was always about. Always. freshwest Apr 2013 #6
The Koch Brothers are extremely dangerous to the survival of a democracy. They are a Trojan Horse, RKP5637 Apr 2013 #27
+1000 Newest Reality Apr 2013 #29
The Koch Matrix! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #31
Well, I'll just haul this one out for those who want it: freshwest Apr 2013 #44
+++ 1,000,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #46
How many has it been this year? dogknob Apr 2013 #16
I was actually wondering the same thing, hearing about three or four this month alone. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #25
In texas it's more likely the drug cartels than some rw conspiracy..nt Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #35
I guess we'll find out one way or another. longship Apr 2013 #38
Hopefully we will..nt Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #40
Some more info exploring both angles. Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #43
Nothing works against an ambush and little works against assault weaponry. freshwest Apr 2013 #2
Many of them become "targets"... SkyDaddy7 Apr 2013 #24
Therefore it never has nor ever will? pipoman Apr 2013 #4
So "it still did him no good"? And logically his gun should have been taken away from him? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #5
Your in fantasy land or what? Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #7
So why, exactly, did you say "Veteran with a gun for protection and it still did him no good"? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #8
I only mention the Carcano because JFK tried to ban it when he was a US Senator Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #22
It's a false equivalency to equate asking questions with "putting words in (your) mouth". AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #33
The truth was on my side Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #34
"How that turns into taking guns away I have no idea." No one knows. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #37
Your clarification was straight to a Beck & friends talking point Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #47
A history lesson for you. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #49
OH BOY Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #51
I didn't say that. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #52
A link from a neutral site Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #53
Just some knowledge of history. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #55
OK Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #56
Forget the type of gun. The argument goes against the idea that guns are de-facto protection. randome Apr 2013 #30
STRAWMAN. Who besides you and other gun-controllers AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #32
the NRA sure likes to imply that booley Apr 2013 #50
What is it called when .... etherealtruth Apr 2013 #54
In claiming he created a strawman, you just created one yourself. He never said or implied that stevenleser Apr 2013 #75
Wait, you want to ban bolt-action rifles? NickB79 Apr 2013 #21
What are the significant operational differences between a Carcano and a Remington 700? Marengo Apr 2013 #58
Carcano was military issue and imported Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #60
Operationally, it isn't much different from most... Marengo Apr 2013 #61
But GreenStormCloud says... Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #62
Perhaps because it has the appearance of a diversionary tactic? Marengo Apr 2013 #63
This all started over my coment.. Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #64
No, as that topic has no relation with that which I am addressing in this thread. Marengo Apr 2013 #65
US jobs, or gun control, you got a choice provided by a 2nd amendment supporter Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #66
That's nice, now back to the topic I am addressing... Marengo Apr 2013 #67
Why not ask JFK? Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #68
We could also ask every kill by the U.S. M40 sniper platform... Marengo Apr 2013 #76
Remington 700 Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #77
The functional similarity. Why ban the Carcano and not the Remington 700? Marengo Apr 2013 #78
Already posted: I only mention the Carcano because JFK tried to ban it when he was a US Senator Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #79
From an operational perspective, banning one and not the other... Marengo Apr 2013 #80
You have certainly enjoyed your stay! greiner3 Apr 2013 #9
Whatever that means, same to you. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #11
If only he'd been armed. Sigh. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #10
I just hope somebody has the footage. napoleon_in_rags Apr 2013 #12
I was wondering about that, $400 for a 8 camera DVR...nt Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #36
Right? napoleon_in_rags Apr 2013 #45
Another political assassination... Hekate Apr 2013 #13
You can't honestly do that with just one datapoint. Bucky Apr 2013 #14
You're right ... brett_jv Apr 2013 #15
How True DallasNE Apr 2013 #17
yeh i'm sure it went down just like that.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #18
Regardless of the exact details ... brett_jv Apr 2013 #19
In answer to your question: Paladin Apr 2013 #28
100% of ALL gun deaths could be prevented with a 100% ban of all bullets/guns in the streets graham4anything Apr 2013 #20
Criminals will have guns and ammo in that fantasy world of yours. nt hack89 Apr 2013 #26
Two gunmen stalked and shot my friend, the municipal judge Kolesar Apr 2013 #23
I just browse these stories anymore to see if the usual NRA assholes are spinning it... Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #39
This one seems to be riling the gun nut assholes up into state of high froth alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #41
Scary stuff. Cops are armed and get shot, too. No one is safe from horrific violence. Blandocyte Apr 2013 #42
He had a gun so he was totally safe, right??? tabasco Apr 2013 #48
Nobody claims that. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #57
Home protection is the NRA's #1 argument for opposing gun restrictions. tabasco Apr 2013 #69
He was ambushed by probably 4 people and shot 20 times. tammywammy Apr 2013 #59
Link? tabasco Apr 2013 #70
Here's a link tammywammy Apr 2013 #71
So.... no confirmation yet of how many assailants and how many shots. tabasco Apr 2013 #72
It looks like the executioners answered McClellan's very public message R B Garr Apr 2013 #74
Here's a story from yesterday with another prosecuter madville Apr 2013 #73
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