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69. Home protection is the NRA's #1 argument for opposing gun restrictions.

Reply to GreenStormCloud (Reply #57)

Wed Apr 3, 2013, 08:17 AM

Apr 2013

Seems like this case is a counter-argument.

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Texas DA slain in his home; had armed himself [View all] Omaha Steve Apr 2013 OP

Feels like a whole lot of assassination going on lately. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #1

They've been talking about it for some time now. longship Apr 2013 #3

Nope, this what much of this was always about. Always. freshwest Apr 2013 #6

The Koch Brothers are extremely dangerous to the survival of a democracy. They are a Trojan Horse, RKP5637 Apr 2013 #27

+1000 Newest Reality Apr 2013 #29

The Koch Matrix! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #31

Well, I'll just haul this one out for those who want it: freshwest Apr 2013 #44

+++ 1,000,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #46

How many has it been this year? dogknob Apr 2013 #16

I was actually wondering the same thing, hearing about three or four this month alone. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #25

In texas it's more likely the drug cartels than some rw conspiracy..nt Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #35

I guess we'll find out one way or another. longship Apr 2013 #38

Hopefully we will..nt Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #40

Some more info exploring both angles. Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #43

Nothing works against an ambush and little works against assault weaponry. freshwest Apr 2013 #2

Many of them become "targets"... SkyDaddy7 Apr 2013 #24

Therefore it never has nor ever will? pipoman Apr 2013 #4

So "it still did him no good"? And logically his gun should have been taken away from him? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #5

Your in fantasy land or what? Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #7

So why, exactly, did you say "Veteran with a gun for protection and it still did him no good"? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #8

I only mention the Carcano because JFK tried to ban it when he was a US Senator Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #22

It's a false equivalency to equate asking questions with "putting words in (your) mouth". AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #33

The truth was on my side Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #34

"How that turns into taking guns away I have no idea." No one knows. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #37

Your clarification was straight to a Beck & friends talking point Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #47

A history lesson for you. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #49

OH BOY Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #51

I didn't say that. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #52

A link from a neutral site Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #53

Just some knowledge of history. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #55

OK Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #56

Forget the type of gun. The argument goes against the idea that guns are de-facto protection. randome Apr 2013 #30

STRAWMAN. Who besides you and other gun-controllers AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #32

the NRA sure likes to imply that booley Apr 2013 #50

What is it called when .... etherealtruth Apr 2013 #54

In claiming he created a strawman, you just created one yourself. He never said or implied that stevenleser Apr 2013 #75

Wait, you want to ban bolt-action rifles? NickB79 Apr 2013 #21

What are the significant operational differences between a Carcano and a Remington 700? Marengo Apr 2013 #58

Carcano was military issue and imported Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #60

Operationally, it isn't much different from most... Marengo Apr 2013 #61

But GreenStormCloud says... Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #62

Perhaps because it has the appearance of a diversionary tactic? Marengo Apr 2013 #63

This all started over my coment.. Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #64

No, as that topic has no relation with that which I am addressing in this thread. Marengo Apr 2013 #65

US jobs, or gun control, you got a choice provided by a 2nd amendment supporter Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #66

That's nice, now back to the topic I am addressing... Marengo Apr 2013 #67

Why not ask JFK? Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #68

We could also ask every kill by the U.S. M40 sniper platform... Marengo Apr 2013 #76

Remington 700 Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #77

The functional similarity. Why ban the Carcano and not the Remington 700? Marengo Apr 2013 #78

Already posted: I only mention the Carcano because JFK tried to ban it when he was a US Senator Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #79

From an operational perspective, banning one and not the other... Marengo Apr 2013 #80

You have certainly enjoyed your stay! greiner3 Apr 2013 #9

Whatever that means, same to you. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #11

If only he'd been armed. Sigh. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #10

I just hope somebody has the footage. napoleon_in_rags Apr 2013 #12

I was wondering about that, $400 for a 8 camera DVR...nt Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #36

Right? napoleon_in_rags Apr 2013 #45

Another political assassination... Hekate Apr 2013 #13

You can't honestly do that with just one datapoint. Bucky Apr 2013 #14

You're right ... brett_jv Apr 2013 #15

How True DallasNE Apr 2013 #17

yeh i'm sure it went down just like that.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #18

Regardless of the exact details ... brett_jv Apr 2013 #19

In answer to your question: Paladin Apr 2013 #28

100% of ALL gun deaths could be prevented with a 100% ban of all bullets/guns in the streets graham4anything Apr 2013 #20

Criminals will have guns and ammo in that fantasy world of yours. nt hack89 Apr 2013 #26

Two gunmen stalked and shot my friend, the municipal judge Kolesar Apr 2013 #23

I just browse these stories anymore to see if the usual NRA assholes are spinning it... Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #39

This one seems to be riling the gun nut assholes up into state of high froth alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #41

Scary stuff. Cops are armed and get shot, too. No one is safe from horrific violence. Blandocyte Apr 2013 #42

He had a gun so he was totally safe, right??? tabasco Apr 2013 #48

Nobody claims that. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #57

Home protection is the NRA's #1 argument for opposing gun restrictions. tabasco Apr 2013 #69

He was ambushed by probably 4 people and shot 20 times. tammywammy Apr 2013 #59

Link? tabasco Apr 2013 #70

Here's a link tammywammy Apr 2013 #71

So.... no confirmation yet of how many assailants and how many shots. tabasco Apr 2013 #72

It looks like the executioners answered McClellan's very public message R B Garr Apr 2013 #74

Here's a story from yesterday with another prosecuter madville Apr 2013 #73