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cprise

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8. Are warrants "easy"?

Reply to Orsino (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 01:25 PM

Apr 2013

I thought that was the whole reason for warrantless surveillance-- Its not easy enough to first obtain warrants so that cops can fuel their fishing expeditions.

If most people casually use strong encryption, then the police can't go on warrantless fishing expeditions against whoever they prefer to make a target this week.

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Apple's iMessage encryption trips up feds' surveillance [View all] onehandle Apr 2013 OP

You think they haven't already? ret5hd Apr 2013 #1

Related thread ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #2

What's more important than national security to onehandle? Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #3

Uh, this is the DEA whining. I think Orsino's comment below sums it up best. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #7

We used to bitch about the police state... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #14

Know what can decrypt those messages easily? Orsino Apr 2013 #4

+1000 TeamPooka Apr 2013 #5

Thank you. I remember when we had a Fourth Amendment. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #6

Oh yeah, I kinda remember that, too Berlum Apr 2013 #12

Are warrants "easy"? cprise Apr 2013 #8

The problem with warrants is you have to have some evidence. bemildred Apr 2013 #9

Any chat app with OTR encryption will have this level of security. cprise Apr 2013 #10

Thwarting the DEA is always a good thing. Proletariatprincess Apr 2013 #11

good. Fuck the DEA... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #13

If You Want to Make Sure There are No Back Doors AndyTiedye Apr 2013 #15

I'll bet the NSA already has access. They just don't like to share. n/t hughee99 Apr 2013 #16

whatever happened to PGP? .nt quadrature Apr 2013 #17

LOL. "It is impossible to intercept iMessages between two Apple devices even with a court order!1!" PSPS Apr 2013 #18