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alcibiades_mystery

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13. That's absolutely false
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 12:21 PM
Apr 2013

This is what persons not in labor force means as a technical category for the BLS:

Persons who are neither employed nor unemployed are not in the labor force. This category includes retired persons, students, those taking care of children or other family members, and others who are neither working nor seeking work. Information is collected on their desire for and availability for work, job search activity in the prior year, and reasons for not currently searching.


http://www.bls.gov/cps/lfcharacteristics.htm#nlf

Why would you come here and lie? Or do you just not know what you're talking about?

For those who want a closer look at these numbers as the BLS supplied them, and not the interpreted graph in the OP's link, here you go: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t16.htm

Of course baby boomer retirement has to be factored into the comparison of the percentage to 1979. As was noted by an actual, y'know, economist last August the last time people had a fit about this:

"We have consistently held the view that the labor force participation rate would not rebound any time soon and its decline is mainly driven by the ageing (sic) of the population and the exit of the baby boomers from the labor market," Barclays Capital economist Michael Gapen wrote in a research note. "Therefore, the decline in the unemployment rate is not reflective of underlying strength in employment in this report."

The number of Americans the BLS says are "not in the labor force" has risen by 2.7 million in the past year, to 88.9 million. That sounds bad -- nearly three million people dropping out of the job market.

But of that 88.9 million, just a little less than 7 million people who are out of the labor force say they still want a job. That is a horribly high number. But it has only grown by 488,000 in the past year. In other words, of the 2.7 million people who have dropped out of the labor force in the past year, about 2.2 million of them say they're not interested in finding a job anyway.

And what are the majority of these 2.2 million people who don't want a job doing instead? Retiring, it seems. About 1.6 million people who have dropped out of the labor force in the past year are 65 and over, according to the BLS.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-gongloff/labor-force-participation-rate_b_1865027.html

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no surprise, since the republicans have been blocking every jobs program proposed still_one Apr 2013 #1
Wow! You can see when George Bush Junior became president on that graph. loudsue Apr 2013 #2
Welcome to DU, Jim Rob alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #3
Mucho's Gracis, Amigo! n/t Jim.Rob58 Apr 2013 #5
I don't know who this "Mucho" might be, or why he possesses a "Gracis" alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #6
LOL. n/t Jim.Rob58 Apr 2013 #10
Talk of cuts to Social Security won't help. earthside Apr 2013 #4
I largely agree with you. Jim.Rob58 Apr 2013 #7
What impact does baby boomer retirements have on labor force participation rates? denverbill Apr 2013 #8
None, nor should they. Jim.Rob58 Apr 2013 #9
That's absolutely false alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #13
Well yes and no dmallind Apr 2013 #15
There are certainly interpretations to be made regarding the number...I was addressing the poster's alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #16
We have less people working now than in 1980... lib2DaBone Apr 2013 #11
maybe the sequester will help Enrique Apr 2013 #12
Only 6M of whom want a job, and only 3M of whom have looked ONCE in a year. dmallind Apr 2013 #14
Baby Boomer here. I dropped out... I retired OKNancy Apr 2013 #17
It's those lazy worker's fault that there are no jobs librechik Apr 2013 #18
K&R DeSwiss Apr 2013 #19
the private sector is doing fine. quadrature Apr 2013 #20
You're kidding Right? Munificence Apr 2013 #21
The private sector is doing fine? OhioChick Apr 2013 #22
Locking, sorry, this is a duplicate. Please continue discussion and post updates here: Rhiannon12866 Apr 2013 #23
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