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7. When the Occupy DC group first came to McPherson Square...

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 12:47 AM

Feb 2012

...I was in favor of their being there, and more than a bit proud that the Occupy movement and the Park Police seemed to take a mutual live-and-let-live attitude (I read things were mainly peaceful and cooperative at Freedom Plaza, the other Occupy DC site).

But all that was before the reported rat infestation, the attempted construction of a wooden building, and more.

There's a long history of public protest by occupation, including in the nation's capital. There's even a one- or two-person protest of very long standing at Lafayette Park (across from the White House).

But I think it's time for the protesters to take up some other means. The occupation and not the message has long since become the story, and on top of that there are health and safety risks to consider.

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Officer struck by brick as mounted police clear Occupy DC tents from federal park [View all] tabasco Feb 2012 OP

Way to go occupy.... Joe the Revelator Feb 2012 #1

Gee, thanks Troll RufusTFirefly Feb 2012 #4

This isn't the first negative news about occupy creeksneakers2 Feb 2012 #5

There were lots of Agent Provacatuers in all the peace movements! sce56 Feb 2012 #8

They do it all the time. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #61

Then again, there are a lot of tools out their with rocks DUIC Feb 2012 #70

Thank you for posting. /nt think Feb 2012 #119

Your score keeping needs a lot of work. EFerrari Feb 2012 #17

I don't understand what you mean creeksneakers2 Feb 2012 #117

I wonder if there has ever been negative news about cops... or democrats... or priests... or... Tunkamerica Feb 2012 #35

If you look at the entire movement creeksneakers2 Feb 2012 #118

Feh kenfrequed Feb 2012 #129

Occupy has a pattern. I'm not generalizing what can't be generalized. creeksneakers2 Feb 2012 #133

*feh* a noise I make when I dismiss something as absurd. kenfrequed Feb 2012 #134

Do you know how stupid it sounds to blame all the bullshit that comes out of occupy on... Joe the Revelator Feb 2012 #9

A whole day of police duplicity and violence EFerrari Feb 2012 #11

Let that brick hit you in the fucking head. tabasco Feb 2012 #21

More brilliance, someone get me my shades. EFerrari Feb 2012 #23

.... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2012 #98

probably feel almost as bad as repeated truncheon attacks or being tazed or tear gassed Tunkamerica Feb 2012 #38

Were the police doing that in Washington? tabasco Feb 2012 #122

protestors attacked by cops is weird and fictional? Tunkamerica Feb 2012 #137

Would I be wearing a helmet? KansDem Feb 2012 #52

I wouldn't notice because the police baton already did. JackRiddler Feb 2012 #53

This is how discussions get sidetracked. It isn't about whether it's ok to hit someone truth2power Feb 2012 #74

So you're saying, in effect, that the police attacked the police. randome Feb 2012 #75

Do I understand that you are siding with the oligarchs and their police? nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #106

Provide evidence for that assertion or I shall assume your tabasco Feb 2012 #121

Do you side against those people in Egypt also? Do you side against people in rhett o rick Feb 2012 #128

"I side against people who throw bricks at other people and horses." Downtown Hound Feb 2012 #139

Let that tear gas burn you in the eyes Downtown Hound Feb 2012 #140

"to turn into an ugly, disorganized, Frankenstein of a 'movement', if you can even call it that" SoapBox Feb 2012 #13

I've been reading tweets all day since early this morning from the violent attack on OccupyDC. EFerrari Feb 2012 #14

When there's a mere allegation of an Occupier throwing something at a cop... backscatter712 Feb 2012 #25

You said it. EFerrari Feb 2012 #27

+1000. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2012 #100

They do seem rather good at it don't they. kenfrequed Feb 2012 #130

Go ahead and lay down with the oligarchs. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #15

Do you know how stupid it sounds to buy into the media narrative? Hissyspit Feb 2012 #28

What I find more amusing is that those... joshcryer Feb 2012 #31

Good post. nt msanthrope Feb 2012 #42

Yeah, those occupiers need to be more like teabaggers and bring guns, fasttense Feb 2012 #47

..."no leaders in occupy"... It's interesting how some DUers are pushing the idea that Occupy truth2power Feb 2012 #55

Thanks for the referral. EFerrari Feb 2012 #63

Not as stupid as mimicking right-wing talking points. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #79

Labeling other people's opinions as 'right wing'... randome Feb 2012 #80

I didnt label his opinion. I simply stated that using right-wing talking points is as rhett o rick Feb 2012 #82

Uhm... kenfrequed Feb 2012 #131

Maybe, just maybe, the fact that there are no leaders in occupy has allowed it to throneoflunacy Feb 2012 #87

"an ugly, disorganized, Frankenstein of a 'movement'" boppers Feb 2012 #113

NTSBOTC, are ya? The Doctor. Feb 2012 #18

Welcome to my Ignore list, troll - n/t coalition_unwilling Feb 2012 #33

Way to go Joe, carla Feb 2012 #48

I'm angry because OWS could have been so much more, and it's downfall... Joe the Revelator Feb 2012 #62

"Rational people" who sided with authority from "go". EFerrari Feb 2012 #65

I wish I could find the lyrics kenfrequed Feb 2012 #132

Your words sound like a RW talk radio yapping Marrah_G Feb 2012 #125

How in the hell can people sleep there with no bedding or blannkets? Hestia Feb 2012 #2

I think they mean indoor bedding instead of camping gear. nt Deep13 Feb 2012 #3

Simple - we gather throneoflunacy Feb 2012 #88

This group was assembled on K street so I'm sure there will be plenty of servalance video. midnight Feb 2012 #6

When the Occupy DC group first came to McPherson Square... CBHagman Feb 2012 #7

But, what other means would there be for the 99% to protest? MrMickeysMom Feb 2012 #10

somebody reported rats in a city! don't you understand the implication of rats? what's next? pigeons Tunkamerica Feb 2012 #39

Its not against any religion... to poisoning a pigeon! MrMickeysMom Feb 2012 #68

Greater health and safety risks than the police beating on people EFerrari Feb 2012 #12

Whats this "we" stuff? tabasco Feb 2012 #22

Are you trying to locate yourself? I know where I am. EFerrari Feb 2012 #24

We are the 99%. Include me in the we. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #105

If it's too "risky" for you, then go home. The movement is going ahead w/o you. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #16

I wouldn't be surprised if things get bad EFerrari Feb 2012 #19

About the Rats atreides1 Feb 2012 #49

So you can be considered 'pro-rat', I suppose? randome Feb 2012 #50

"health and safety risks" It is to laugh.... truth2power Feb 2012 #58

Notice some of the pigs were wearing their propaganda suits - aka hazmat suits. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #67

Necessity throneoflunacy Feb 2012 #91

Perhaps a bit more contemplation on ethics and morals is needed. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #20

Contemplating ethics and morals will not ever give us control EFerrari Feb 2012 #26

Maybe not control over one brick heaver, but it's needed WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #89

I disagree. What is needed is perspective. EFerrari Feb 2012 #103

But I do have interest in helping Occupy have a successful outcome. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #107

Then, I hope you get out to your local GA because that's where it happens. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #108

Been doing that for over three months. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #110

Kinda hard throneoflunacy Feb 2012 #92

Occupy needs to pick it's battles carefully. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #101

Way to go DU. I come back from to see not a single post about the original Occupy except this tripe Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #29

Nice post. Interesting thing about homelessness: joshcryer Feb 2012 #32

"I bet you didn't even know DC was the original planned Occupy" boppers Feb 2012 #114

Occupy DC was in in preparation months before September 17. Amonester Feb 2012 #123

Yeah, and we've had a hard time getting the two Occupy's to trust each other. Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #136

I personally wonder if it was a real member of Occupy. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #30

OWS needs to take responsibility... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #46

Then one solution for the asshole problem, is for WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #94

That would definitely help. randome Feb 2012 #96

Or a group of volunteers. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #102

Cont. from Locked Thread: 15-year old girl injured in face by baton in Occupy DC Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #34

Transparency (continued) Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #36

I have no intention of reposting this on General Discussion, BTW. Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #37

An interesting discussion Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #40

since no other persons from the DC area were in attendance Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #41

Correction: some Secret Service Agents were sympathetic when the crowd sang the National Anthem Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #43

Holy Hell unionworks Feb 2012 #45

Yeah, I saw that footage. boppers Feb 2012 #115

Maybe she was an agent provocateur. randome Feb 2012 #57

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #59

When every negative action is blamed on 'agents'... randome Feb 2012 #60

There is a long history of the FBI infiltrating protest movements to discredit them. EFerrari Feb 2012 #64

I'm not characterizing all of OWS because of a few individuals' actions. randome Feb 2012 #66

Well, no, that's wrong. EFerrari Feb 2012 #69

Yeah. I would. randome Feb 2012 #71

No, the word "corporation" is not "bad". EFerrari Feb 2012 #72

"The corporation is an externalizing machine, in the same way that a shark is a killing machine." RufusTFirefly Feb 2012 #73

Agree with you all the way. randome Feb 2012 #76

You think that OWS should get organized and be just like moveon.org? Yup, rhett o rick Feb 2012 #81

No, I think OWS should get organized and be much better than it is. randome Feb 2012 #83

With respect, I'm questioning your notion of a "left-wing media." RufusTFirefly Feb 2012 #84

But they DO mention OWS occasionally. randome Feb 2012 #86

Is Rupert Murdoch left wing? RufusTFirefly Feb 2012 #90

Indeed. Robb Feb 2012 #99

The media is really, really scared notundecided Feb 2012 #93

I don't think anyone is afraid of OWS. randome Feb 2012 #95

I think in your mind's eye notundecided Feb 2012 #104

What a coincidence. randome Feb 2012 #109

Comedy Central and MSNBC throneoflunacy Feb 2012 #97

I totally agree, they also use undercover police from other areas. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #85

Notice that you totally ignored that the "provocateur" in question is a 15-year-old girl Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #135

Ignatz the Mouse unionworks Feb 2012 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Enrique Feb 2012 #51

One thing I really hope somebody got... backscatter712 Feb 2012 #54

This is anti-Occupy PROPAGANDA! Odin2005 Feb 2012 #56

When an Oakland protestor accused police of brutality there was photographic evidence Generic Other Feb 2012 #77

Fair enough. randome Feb 2012 #78

Im pretty sure you include no link Earth_First Feb 2012 #111

Here's a link - lynne Feb 2012 #112

The idiots do not help our cause. gregtownsand Feb 2012 #116

tear gas, rubber bullets, bulldozers, bean bags, corraling peacful protesters, and a media Badsam Feb 2012 #120

Yeah, I am surprised that anyone's surprised that we might actually fight back Doctor_J Feb 2012 #124

What I find interesting is... Javaman Feb 2012 #126

Occupy Oakland trying to stop violence unionworks Feb 2012 #127

I hope OWS releases a zombie plague into a group of police officers. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #138