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31. What I find more amusing is that those...

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 04:25 AM

Feb 2012

...who dismiss the errant behavior of some Occupiers have made similar accusations about the Arab Spring.

ie, when a small group in the Arab Spring did something abhorrent, it meant something on a larger scale.

Note: I dismiss this incident as I do the other Occupy incidents, and as I do when it happened in the Arab Spring.

I cannot diminish or insult an entire group based on the actions of a few.

The person who threw the brick may or may not have been an agent provocateur. However, assault is assault whether or not it was paid provocation, and it seems like a rather stupid thing for a provocateur to attempt to do, if the victim died it would be very nasty for the agency who hired them. I think it's more likely the person who did it was an idiot hooligan, and will likely be denounced.

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Officer struck by brick as mounted police clear Occupy DC tents from federal park [View all] tabasco Feb 2012 OP

Way to go occupy.... Joe the Revelator Feb 2012 #1

Gee, thanks Troll RufusTFirefly Feb 2012 #4

This isn't the first negative news about occupy creeksneakers2 Feb 2012 #5

There were lots of Agent Provacatuers in all the peace movements! sce56 Feb 2012 #8

They do it all the time. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #61

Then again, there are a lot of tools out their with rocks DUIC Feb 2012 #70

Thank you for posting. /nt think Feb 2012 #119

Your score keeping needs a lot of work. EFerrari Feb 2012 #17

I don't understand what you mean creeksneakers2 Feb 2012 #117

I wonder if there has ever been negative news about cops... or democrats... or priests... or... Tunkamerica Feb 2012 #35

If you look at the entire movement creeksneakers2 Feb 2012 #118

Feh kenfrequed Feb 2012 #129

Occupy has a pattern. I'm not generalizing what can't be generalized. creeksneakers2 Feb 2012 #133

*feh* a noise I make when I dismiss something as absurd. kenfrequed Feb 2012 #134

Do you know how stupid it sounds to blame all the bullshit that comes out of occupy on... Joe the Revelator Feb 2012 #9

A whole day of police duplicity and violence EFerrari Feb 2012 #11

Let that brick hit you in the fucking head. tabasco Feb 2012 #21

More brilliance, someone get me my shades. EFerrari Feb 2012 #23

.... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2012 #98

probably feel almost as bad as repeated truncheon attacks or being tazed or tear gassed Tunkamerica Feb 2012 #38

Were the police doing that in Washington? tabasco Feb 2012 #122

protestors attacked by cops is weird and fictional? Tunkamerica Feb 2012 #137

Would I be wearing a helmet? KansDem Feb 2012 #52

I wouldn't notice because the police baton already did. JackRiddler Feb 2012 #53

This is how discussions get sidetracked. It isn't about whether it's ok to hit someone truth2power Feb 2012 #74

So you're saying, in effect, that the police attacked the police. randome Feb 2012 #75

Do I understand that you are siding with the oligarchs and their police? nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #106

Provide evidence for that assertion or I shall assume your tabasco Feb 2012 #121

Do you side against those people in Egypt also? Do you side against people in rhett o rick Feb 2012 #128

"I side against people who throw bricks at other people and horses." Downtown Hound Feb 2012 #139

Let that tear gas burn you in the eyes Downtown Hound Feb 2012 #140

"to turn into an ugly, disorganized, Frankenstein of a 'movement', if you can even call it that" SoapBox Feb 2012 #13

I've been reading tweets all day since early this morning from the violent attack on OccupyDC. EFerrari Feb 2012 #14

When there's a mere allegation of an Occupier throwing something at a cop... backscatter712 Feb 2012 #25

You said it. EFerrari Feb 2012 #27

+1000. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2012 #100

They do seem rather good at it don't they. kenfrequed Feb 2012 #130

Go ahead and lay down with the oligarchs. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #15

Do you know how stupid it sounds to buy into the media narrative? Hissyspit Feb 2012 #28

What I find more amusing is that those... joshcryer Feb 2012 #31

Good post. nt msanthrope Feb 2012 #42

Yeah, those occupiers need to be more like teabaggers and bring guns, fasttense Feb 2012 #47

..."no leaders in occupy"... It's interesting how some DUers are pushing the idea that Occupy truth2power Feb 2012 #55

Thanks for the referral. EFerrari Feb 2012 #63

Not as stupid as mimicking right-wing talking points. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #79

Labeling other people's opinions as 'right wing'... randome Feb 2012 #80

I didnt label his opinion. I simply stated that using right-wing talking points is as rhett o rick Feb 2012 #82

Uhm... kenfrequed Feb 2012 #131

Maybe, just maybe, the fact that there are no leaders in occupy has allowed it to throneoflunacy Feb 2012 #87

"an ugly, disorganized, Frankenstein of a 'movement'" boppers Feb 2012 #113

NTSBOTC, are ya? The Doctor. Feb 2012 #18

Welcome to my Ignore list, troll - n/t coalition_unwilling Feb 2012 #33

Way to go Joe, carla Feb 2012 #48

I'm angry because OWS could have been so much more, and it's downfall... Joe the Revelator Feb 2012 #62

"Rational people" who sided with authority from "go". EFerrari Feb 2012 #65

I wish I could find the lyrics kenfrequed Feb 2012 #132

Your words sound like a RW talk radio yapping Marrah_G Feb 2012 #125

How in the hell can people sleep there with no bedding or blannkets? Hestia Feb 2012 #2

I think they mean indoor bedding instead of camping gear. nt Deep13 Feb 2012 #3

Simple - we gather throneoflunacy Feb 2012 #88

This group was assembled on K street so I'm sure there will be plenty of servalance video. midnight Feb 2012 #6

When the Occupy DC group first came to McPherson Square... CBHagman Feb 2012 #7

But, what other means would there be for the 99% to protest? MrMickeysMom Feb 2012 #10

somebody reported rats in a city! don't you understand the implication of rats? what's next? pigeons Tunkamerica Feb 2012 #39

Its not against any religion... to poisoning a pigeon! MrMickeysMom Feb 2012 #68

Greater health and safety risks than the police beating on people EFerrari Feb 2012 #12

Whats this "we" stuff? tabasco Feb 2012 #22

Are you trying to locate yourself? I know where I am. EFerrari Feb 2012 #24

We are the 99%. Include me in the we. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #105

If it's too "risky" for you, then go home. The movement is going ahead w/o you. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #16

I wouldn't be surprised if things get bad EFerrari Feb 2012 #19

About the Rats atreides1 Feb 2012 #49

So you can be considered 'pro-rat', I suppose? randome Feb 2012 #50

"health and safety risks" It is to laugh.... truth2power Feb 2012 #58

Notice some of the pigs were wearing their propaganda suits - aka hazmat suits. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #67

Necessity throneoflunacy Feb 2012 #91

Perhaps a bit more contemplation on ethics and morals is needed. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #20

Contemplating ethics and morals will not ever give us control EFerrari Feb 2012 #26

Maybe not control over one brick heaver, but it's needed WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #89

I disagree. What is needed is perspective. EFerrari Feb 2012 #103

But I do have interest in helping Occupy have a successful outcome. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #107

Then, I hope you get out to your local GA because that's where it happens. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #108

Been doing that for over three months. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #110

Kinda hard throneoflunacy Feb 2012 #92

Occupy needs to pick it's battles carefully. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #101

Way to go DU. I come back from to see not a single post about the original Occupy except this tripe Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #29

Nice post. Interesting thing about homelessness: joshcryer Feb 2012 #32

"I bet you didn't even know DC was the original planned Occupy" boppers Feb 2012 #114

Occupy DC was in in preparation months before September 17. Amonester Feb 2012 #123

Yeah, and we've had a hard time getting the two Occupy's to trust each other. Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #136

I personally wonder if it was a real member of Occupy. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #30

OWS needs to take responsibility... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #46

Then one solution for the asshole problem, is for WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #94

That would definitely help. randome Feb 2012 #96

Or a group of volunteers. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #102

Cont. from Locked Thread: 15-year old girl injured in face by baton in Occupy DC Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #34

Transparency (continued) Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #36

I have no intention of reposting this on General Discussion, BTW. Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #37

An interesting discussion Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #40

since no other persons from the DC area were in attendance Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #41

Correction: some Secret Service Agents were sympathetic when the crowd sang the National Anthem Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #43

Holy Hell unionworks Feb 2012 #45

Yeah, I saw that footage. boppers Feb 2012 #115

Maybe she was an agent provocateur. randome Feb 2012 #57

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #59

When every negative action is blamed on 'agents'... randome Feb 2012 #60

There is a long history of the FBI infiltrating protest movements to discredit them. EFerrari Feb 2012 #64

I'm not characterizing all of OWS because of a few individuals' actions. randome Feb 2012 #66

Well, no, that's wrong. EFerrari Feb 2012 #69

Yeah. I would. randome Feb 2012 #71

No, the word "corporation" is not "bad". EFerrari Feb 2012 #72

"The corporation is an externalizing machine, in the same way that a shark is a killing machine." RufusTFirefly Feb 2012 #73

Agree with you all the way. randome Feb 2012 #76

You think that OWS should get organized and be just like moveon.org? Yup, rhett o rick Feb 2012 #81

No, I think OWS should get organized and be much better than it is. randome Feb 2012 #83

With respect, I'm questioning your notion of a "left-wing media." RufusTFirefly Feb 2012 #84

But they DO mention OWS occasionally. randome Feb 2012 #86

Is Rupert Murdoch left wing? RufusTFirefly Feb 2012 #90

Indeed. Robb Feb 2012 #99

The media is really, really scared notundecided Feb 2012 #93

I don't think anyone is afraid of OWS. randome Feb 2012 #95

I think in your mind's eye notundecided Feb 2012 #104

What a coincidence. randome Feb 2012 #109

Comedy Central and MSNBC throneoflunacy Feb 2012 #97

I totally agree, they also use undercover police from other areas. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #85

Notice that you totally ignored that the "provocateur" in question is a 15-year-old girl Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #135

Ignatz the Mouse unionworks Feb 2012 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Enrique Feb 2012 #51

One thing I really hope somebody got... backscatter712 Feb 2012 #54

This is anti-Occupy PROPAGANDA! Odin2005 Feb 2012 #56

When an Oakland protestor accused police of brutality there was photographic evidence Generic Other Feb 2012 #77

Fair enough. randome Feb 2012 #78

Im pretty sure you include no link Earth_First Feb 2012 #111

Here's a link - lynne Feb 2012 #112

The idiots do not help our cause. gregtownsand Feb 2012 #116

tear gas, rubber bullets, bulldozers, bean bags, corraling peacful protesters, and a media Badsam Feb 2012 #120

Yeah, I am surprised that anyone's surprised that we might actually fight back Doctor_J Feb 2012 #124

What I find interesting is... Javaman Feb 2012 #126

Occupy Oakland trying to stop violence unionworks Feb 2012 #127

I hope OWS releases a zombie plague into a group of police officers. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #138