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39. The official rules aren't always what seems intuitive. In 1998, I was Chief of Staff to a level 3
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 04:24 PM
Apr 2013

Senior Executive Service Office Chief. One day he came back from a meeting and was really steamed because someone at the meeting was wearing an "Impeach Clinton" button. My boss said he almost told the guy to take it off but wasn't sufficiently up on the rules - and asked me to check it out, I called out Agency Designated Ethics Officials. They said this question was outside their jurisdiction and I had ti directly call the US Government Office of Special Counsel (OSC) - the folks who keep civil servants from prohibited partisan activity and enforce the Hatch Act.

OSC told me that it was a good thing that my boss had not intervened because, although it might be in bad taste, wearing the "Impeach Clinton" button was completely legal. They said that Impeachment is not partisan but is instead a Constitutional process. They explained also that Bill Clinton was no longer a candidate in a partisan election so the button could not reasonably be interpreted as supporting a candidate, and, that advocating his impeachment was constitutionally-protected speech.

So the take-away was that even when politics align with party positions, if it's an issue instead of advocating the election or defeat of a candidate in a race with party affiliation, then the advocacy is officially nonpartisan and is protected by the Constitution. http://www.osc.gov/



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He's an asshole and meant what he said. MinneapolisMatt Apr 2013 #1
Johns Hopkins should fire him... ReRe Apr 2013 #2
Hopkins is a private school and they can establish their own standards. But fire him? Sure, why 24601 Apr 2013 #23
I'll tell you what happened to it.... ReRe Apr 2013 #24
I'll disagree regarding apolitical verses non-partisan. There's nothing prohibiting a non-profit 24601 Apr 2013 #25
This is a political issue that might as well be partisan. Ash_F Apr 2013 #38
The official rules aren't always what seems intuitive. In 1998, I was Chief of Staff to a level 3 24601 Apr 2013 #39
Thanks for sharing Ash_F Apr 2013 #40
Let's see... Liberalagogo Apr 2013 #3
Well, Obama has expressed similar viewpoints on marriage. alp227 Apr 2013 #12
Yes he was. Liberalagogo Apr 2013 #13
I cannot say the same about Carson. alp227 Apr 2013 #15
I read his book and was so impressed. Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #16
ACTIONS speak louder than words. Liberalagogo Apr 2013 #17
These positions are all bigoted. alp227 Apr 2013 #18
I'm sure there'll be others Liberalagogo Apr 2013 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Walk away Apr 2013 #27
You need to check who you are replying to Liberalagogo Apr 2013 #29
Sorry, it was meant for the post above yours. I'll remove it. Walk away Apr 2013 #33
No biggie. Thx n/t Liberalagogo Apr 2013 #37
Really? The President compared being gay to raping children and having sex with animals???? Walk away Apr 2013 #26
Obama has ONLY expressed his belief "marriage is between a man and a woman" alp227 Apr 2013 #31
You clearly asked if Obama was a bigot because he stated the same beliefs as Dr. Ben Walk away Apr 2013 #32
By beliefs I mean the definition of marriage not the Santorum-type vitriol! nt alp227 Apr 2013 #35
He meant his words. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #4
Is he still giving the commencement address? randome Apr 2013 #5
Nope, a qualified apoology is a non-apology Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #6
And you bet he ony did this after being pressured by the JH PR team. Glimmer of Hope Apr 2013 #10
Well, was Obama just as bigoted for saying he believes marriage was between a man and a woman? alp227 Apr 2013 #11
It IS inherently bigoted Liberalagogo Apr 2013 #14
Still waiting!!!! nt Walk away Apr 2013 #28
And again Liberalagogo Apr 2013 #30
Yes, Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #36
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #7
So when will he apologize to us, for blaming his ignorant bigotry on "leftists, whom he castigated… Journeyman Apr 2013 #8
Some apology. Dawson Leery Apr 2013 #9
He can go fuck himself. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2013 #19
Too little, too late, you bigot Carson. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #21
Another non-apology apology... Blue Idaho Apr 2013 #22
Ben Carson will now always make me think of NAMBLA and sex with animals. TwilightGardener Apr 2013 #34
"I want to discriminate on the issue of marriage... Orsino Apr 2013 #41
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