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24. More bullshit

Fri Apr 12, 2013, 04:49 PM

Apr 2013

Seniors with more income pay more in taxes. They should not be forced to be taxed again through higher medical costs. They've paid for this as much as anyone else. This is just another way to avoid taxes on corporations. It's bullshit to stand in line at Safeway and hear them whine about donate to "X health problem" of the month. It is the duty of the government to give the people their tax monies' worth through single pay health coverage like every civilized country in the world except us does it. It is not enough to hold a f'in bake sale or pass around the tin cup and only do health care on the crappiest financing.

Tax corporations doing business in the US for health care.

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APNewsBreak: Upper income seniors' Medicare hike [View all] hue Apr 2013 OP

Exposing the dangers of free market capitalism along the way. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2013 #1

The ACA no longer allows them to insert advertising with the costs. They squealed like pigs. freshwest Apr 2013 #8

Good DURHAM D Apr 2013 #2

This is one way of "taxing" the wealthy through the "backdoor" hue Apr 2013 #3

No. it's a way of increasing taxes on middle & upper-class *workers* while leaving *capital,* HiPointDem Apr 2013 #69

then just give me back all the money I Carolina Apr 2013 #4

The current charge is $146.90 a month for Medicare. If you're sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #7

Maybe she thinks it is on assets or DURHAM D Apr 2013 #13

NO! Carolina Apr 2013 #19

I rolled over $50000 from a traditional IRA into a doc03 Apr 2013 #43

so you're getting penalized for saving money Skittles Apr 2013 #54

Exactly, I receive a fairly decent defined benifit pension from a union job doc03 Apr 2013 #59

The fascination with the 1% fascinates me. If we killed all the 1%-ers and confiscated every penny Flatulo Apr 2013 #44

It's not the fact that there is an income bell curve that bothers so many of us so much Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #60

I understand. A normal distribution would be, well, normally expected. Flatulo Apr 2013 #62

Someone did a nice thought experiment daleo Apr 2013 #70

" heavily skewed" is an understatement. bvar22 Apr 2013 #75

The regular premium for Medicare part B is $104 for a single that doc03 Apr 2013 #63

The higher premium will only be for one year, though, correct? Flatulo Apr 2013 #71

I believe it will drop next year. Two years ago I had no idea they would doc03 Apr 2013 #76

I'm 65 and still work. I have an income in excess of $85,000 and will be happy sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #74

Something I learned after getting on Medicare is the 80% part Medicare doc03 Apr 2013 #77

Huh? DURHAM D Apr 2013 #11

it's the slippery slope Carolina Apr 2013 #20

And that $85,000 probably doesn't include marybourg Apr 2013 #23

Exactly. DURHAM D Apr 2013 #28

Don't think it will make much difference in my Downwinder Apr 2013 #5

or mine, which is much less than yours. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #10

If Texas would go with the Medicaid extension it Downwinder Apr 2013 #14

Thank you, dixiegrrrrl Carolina Apr 2013 #21

Looks pretty 'fair'. For a single, 65-year old making $85,000 it's only $21 more. sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #6

They scream the loudest, though. freshwest Apr 2013 #9

for now it's only $21 Carolina Apr 2013 #22

Oh for fuck's sake. Obama is not Hitler. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #29

I didn't say that Carolina Apr 2013 #31

If I am making $85,000 at 65, I can afford to pay $21 so the poor can have healthcare. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #34

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #41

? Skittles Apr 2013 #46

Good one, Skittles! Lasher Apr 2013 #50

I didn't agree with Carolina's post Skittles Apr 2013 #53

And there's a lot of smart people who don't make a lot of money, like teachers. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #55

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT Skittles Apr 2013 #56

I agree a lot less with SunSeeker's rhetoric. Lasher Apr 2013 #57

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #51

What is your basis for saying the amount will creep up and the brackets will creep down? onenote Apr 2013 #36

I can give you an excellent example of that. In 1983 Reagan started taxing up to doc03 Apr 2013 #64

I wonder where the extra cash will go? Could he get more elsewhere? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #12

Sure. How's he going to get the Republicans to vote for it? SunSeeker Apr 2013 #30

effective marketing/campaigning works wonders usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #32

How should you sell it to the Republicans? nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #33

well, to begin with... i wouldn't roll it out to that market initially usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #35

Right, make the voters pressure their Republican Congressmembers. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #37

I would widen the CTA as well usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #38

Some background Lasher Apr 2013 #15

Sorry but... I am for it and DURHAM D Apr 2013 #17

I love irony. Lasher Apr 2013 #18

Thank you for this, Lasher Carolina Apr 2013 #25

Means testing has changed the character of Medicare Lasher Apr 2013 #49

+100. nt antigop Apr 2013 #52

I hope the money will be recycled Iliyah Apr 2013 #16

More bullshit The Second Stone Apr 2013 #24

Thank you! Carolina Apr 2013 #27

tax corporations buck201 Apr 2013 #67

Just another Step in making Medicare a Welfare Program LarryNM Apr 2013 #26

this is how the dismantling starts rurallib Apr 2013 #40

Exactly Carolina Apr 2013 #42

From the responses in this thread I can now define what "rich" is. Flatulo Apr 2013 #39

which is what the real 1% want us to do Carolina Apr 2013 #45

I completely understand everything. DURHAM D Apr 2013 #47

Oh, I agree, $85k is nothing these days. Flatulo Apr 2013 #48

Now they'll have a new reason to cheat...just lift the cap BlueToTheBone Apr 2013 #58

Haven't studied the details yet but the concept makes sense to me Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #61

the wealthy already pay up to $335.72 a month for Medicare Part B CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #65

upper income seniors hike buck201 Apr 2013 #66

So what IS the 'bottom line'? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #68

Punctuation is the key. bornskeptic Apr 2013 #72

Doh! muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #73