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48. Oh, I agree, $85k is nothing these days.

Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:57 PM

Apr 2013

Depending on where you live, that could be a very nominal income.

People asking you if you'd pay an extra $24 so that poor people could have health care are missing the point.

Could you pay another $20 so that everyone could have dental care? Sure.

Could you pay yet another $25 to help a starving child in some third-world country? Sure.

Could you spare just another $25 for cleft palate? Sure.

How about homeless shelters? Abandoned pets? Housing for the needy? AIDs research? Diabetes? Cancer?

At what magical number/point does one cease to be a selfish dick and turn into a caring, compassionate person, when there is endless need in the world? If I go to bed with a full belly, am I a dick because someone else does not? Should we all be forced to live at an absolute bare subsistence level until every single human need, everywhere has been met?

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APNewsBreak: Upper income seniors' Medicare hike [View all] hue Apr 2013 OP

Exposing the dangers of free market capitalism along the way. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2013 #1

The ACA no longer allows them to insert advertising with the costs. They squealed like pigs. freshwest Apr 2013 #8

Good DURHAM D Apr 2013 #2

This is one way of "taxing" the wealthy through the "backdoor" hue Apr 2013 #3

No. it's a way of increasing taxes on middle & upper-class *workers* while leaving *capital,* HiPointDem Apr 2013 #69

then just give me back all the money I Carolina Apr 2013 #4

The current charge is $146.90 a month for Medicare. If you're sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #7

Maybe she thinks it is on assets or DURHAM D Apr 2013 #13

NO! Carolina Apr 2013 #19

I rolled over $50000 from a traditional IRA into a doc03 Apr 2013 #43

so you're getting penalized for saving money Skittles Apr 2013 #54

Exactly, I receive a fairly decent defined benifit pension from a union job doc03 Apr 2013 #59

The fascination with the 1% fascinates me. If we killed all the 1%-ers and confiscated every penny Flatulo Apr 2013 #44

It's not the fact that there is an income bell curve that bothers so many of us so much Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #60

I understand. A normal distribution would be, well, normally expected. Flatulo Apr 2013 #62

Someone did a nice thought experiment daleo Apr 2013 #70

" heavily skewed" is an understatement. bvar22 Apr 2013 #75

The regular premium for Medicare part B is $104 for a single that doc03 Apr 2013 #63

The higher premium will only be for one year, though, correct? Flatulo Apr 2013 #71

I believe it will drop next year. Two years ago I had no idea they would doc03 Apr 2013 #76

I'm 65 and still work. I have an income in excess of $85,000 and will be happy sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #74

Something I learned after getting on Medicare is the 80% part Medicare doc03 Apr 2013 #77

Huh? DURHAM D Apr 2013 #11

it's the slippery slope Carolina Apr 2013 #20

And that $85,000 probably doesn't include marybourg Apr 2013 #23

Exactly. DURHAM D Apr 2013 #28

Don't think it will make much difference in my Downwinder Apr 2013 #5

or mine, which is much less than yours. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #10

If Texas would go with the Medicaid extension it Downwinder Apr 2013 #14

Thank you, dixiegrrrrl Carolina Apr 2013 #21

Looks pretty 'fair'. For a single, 65-year old making $85,000 it's only $21 more. sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #6

They scream the loudest, though. freshwest Apr 2013 #9

for now it's only $21 Carolina Apr 2013 #22

Oh for fuck's sake. Obama is not Hitler. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #29

I didn't say that Carolina Apr 2013 #31

If I am making $85,000 at 65, I can afford to pay $21 so the poor can have healthcare. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #34

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #41

? Skittles Apr 2013 #46

Good one, Skittles! Lasher Apr 2013 #50

I didn't agree with Carolina's post Skittles Apr 2013 #53

And there's a lot of smart people who don't make a lot of money, like teachers. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #55

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT Skittles Apr 2013 #56

I agree a lot less with SunSeeker's rhetoric. Lasher Apr 2013 #57

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #51

What is your basis for saying the amount will creep up and the brackets will creep down? onenote Apr 2013 #36

I can give you an excellent example of that. In 1983 Reagan started taxing up to doc03 Apr 2013 #64

I wonder where the extra cash will go? Could he get more elsewhere? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #12

Sure. How's he going to get the Republicans to vote for it? SunSeeker Apr 2013 #30

effective marketing/campaigning works wonders usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #32

How should you sell it to the Republicans? nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #33

well, to begin with... i wouldn't roll it out to that market initially usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #35

Right, make the voters pressure their Republican Congressmembers. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #37

I would widen the CTA as well usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #38

Some background Lasher Apr 2013 #15

Sorry but... I am for it and DURHAM D Apr 2013 #17

I love irony. Lasher Apr 2013 #18

Thank you for this, Lasher Carolina Apr 2013 #25

Means testing has changed the character of Medicare Lasher Apr 2013 #49

+100. nt antigop Apr 2013 #52

I hope the money will be recycled Iliyah Apr 2013 #16

More bullshit The Second Stone Apr 2013 #24

Thank you! Carolina Apr 2013 #27

tax corporations buck201 Apr 2013 #67

Just another Step in making Medicare a Welfare Program LarryNM Apr 2013 #26

this is how the dismantling starts rurallib Apr 2013 #40

Exactly Carolina Apr 2013 #42

From the responses in this thread I can now define what "rich" is. Flatulo Apr 2013 #39

which is what the real 1% want us to do Carolina Apr 2013 #45

I completely understand everything. DURHAM D Apr 2013 #47

Oh, I agree, $85k is nothing these days. Flatulo Apr 2013 #48

Now they'll have a new reason to cheat...just lift the cap BlueToTheBone Apr 2013 #58

Haven't studied the details yet but the concept makes sense to me Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #61

the wealthy already pay up to $335.72 a month for Medicare Part B CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #65

upper income seniors hike buck201 Apr 2013 #66

So what IS the 'bottom line'? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #68

Punctuation is the key. bornskeptic Apr 2013 #72

Doh! muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #73