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In reply to the discussion: Pope Francis Advisory Council To Reform Church With Permanent Panel Of 8 Cardinals [View all]caseymoz
(5,763 posts)33. Because we should all be acquainted with the marvelous
. . . inventions of Vatican bureaucracy? Or the figments the Church chooses to call truths?
What you don't realize is the dogma's only important or impressive if you believe in the Church, believe in Christ and believe in God, not necessarily in that order. If you don't believe in those, it's still not going to look important, helpful or even convincing. I no more need to understand infallibility than I need understand the Thetan mysteries of auditing in Scientology. They're both equally cults to me.
Please tell me how the definition makes the claim of infallibility either convincing or awesome. As much as I hate to lower standards this much, please tell me how it even makes it sane? It's only through the lens of faith that it looks like gold.
If I take the "real" definition and call it bullshit and enumerate why, would you feel I was being any less unfair? Somehow, I don't think so, because I've taken the definition before and done just that, and the Catholics I talked to apparently still felt I was being unfair.
In fact, I went to Catholic school for 12 years, and then went to a Catholic University. The religion wasn't enlightening; it was a nightmare. And I'm determined to forget as much of its doctrine and dogma as I can. That's how edifying and uplifting I found it. I've been there before. You don't want me to tell you what I think of the definition of infallibility.
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Pope Francis Advisory Council To Reform Church With Permanent Panel Of 8 Cardinals [View all]
Beacool
Apr 2013
OP
I agree that term limits for the Curia would be a great idea, but it's unlikely to happen. It
Cal33
Apr 2013
#43
Why not do them a favor and spell it out for them? Below is what I learned in catechism class
Cal33
Apr 2013
#47
Oh, I understand about speaking ex-cathedra. I was a good Catholic boy for years.
Heywood J
Apr 2013
#46
For a Church that moves slowly it is an interesting development, but I will take a wait
hrmjustin
Apr 2013
#25
I went to the classes with a friend; one night a man came in to warn us about college!!!
Hekate
Apr 2013
#67
Isn't it possible for Pope Francis to both support the humanitarian work of US nuns, and also
Cal33
Apr 2013
#69
He's not 'cracking down on abortion'; he's cracking down on the nuns
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2013
#70