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Heywood J

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42. Yes. I learned that Popes are like light switches.

Sun Apr 14, 2013, 10:24 AM

Apr 2013

Infallibility is off one moment, on the next, and then off again.

I would personally prefer it if he appointed some new cardinals to this panel, ones that weren't brought in by JPII and Benedict - the creators of this mess in the first place. Right now, you have cardinals who created the mess trying to fix the mess and that doesn't sit right with me.

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Pope Francis Advisory Council To Reform Church With Permanent Panel Of 8 Cardinals [View all] Beacool Apr 2013 OP

Liking the lack of Curia insiders in that group. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #1

Exactly!! Beacool Apr 2013 #2

I agree that term limits for the Curia would be a great idea, but it's unlikely to happen. It Cal33 Apr 2013 #43

Didn't he tell Curia members he needed them to "stay on for now"? Hekate Apr 2013 #53

Next step is to announce that the Pope is not infallible LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #3

Learn what the idea of infallibility actually means. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #5

It must be pretty badly misnamed, then. nt caseymoz Apr 2013 #9

Meh. The definition's quite specific and has been set down for centuries. Posteritatis Apr 2013 #10

Easy sneezy. timdog44 Apr 2013 #18

Or people can spend 30 seconds with Google and figure it out themselves. Posteritatis Apr 2013 #19

Still can not timdog44 Apr 2013 #20

As far as the Pope is concerned, okasha Apr 2013 #21

Wrong. rug Apr 2013 #22

Thanks rug. timdog44 Apr 2013 #23

You're welcome. People on both sides of religion get prickly quickly. rug Apr 2013 #24

Because we should all be acquainted with the marvelous caseymoz Apr 2013 #33

Why not do them a favor and spell it out for them? Below is what I learned in catechism class Cal33 Apr 2013 #47

Sigh... AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #36

Yes. I learned that Popes are like light switches. Heywood J Apr 2013 #42

If that were the case, there would be ex cathedra statements every week. AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #44

Oh, I understand about speaking ex-cathedra. I was a good Catholic boy for years. Heywood J Apr 2013 #46

Reading suggestion for an interesting discussion of infallibility: AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #56

He's only considered infallible in extremely limited circumstances Ken Burch Apr 2013 #61

Not again... Drahthaardogs Apr 2013 #65

With 50% women on the panel, I'm sure, efhmc Apr 2013 #4

+100 theHandpuppet Apr 2013 #50

Why would anyone be excited about this? skepticscott Apr 2013 #6

For a Church that moves slowly it is an interesting development, but I will take a wait hrmjustin Apr 2013 #25

This is a "holy crap" moment in the Church TrogL Apr 2013 #34

I am happy to see he wants to do some reforming. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #35

Shaken? Hardly. skepticscott Apr 2013 #40

Because this rarely happens in the Church? AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #37

It would be pretty difficult skepticscott Apr 2013 #41

And he's been in the office for how long now? A month? AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #45

Slamming? Oh, please skepticscott Apr 2013 #49

And who's to say that he won't set in motion reform? AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #55

Who's to say he will? You? skepticscott Apr 2013 #57

How about having nuns who've spent their lives doing missionary The Second Stone Apr 2013 #7

Not a bad idea. Beacool Apr 2013 #8

Nuns should have a seat at table, period. AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #38

Vatican III: The Search for Spock. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #11

... Javaman Apr 2013 #12

Funny guy!! Beacool Apr 2013 #13

Bravo! Paulie Apr 2013 #17

It's been a long time... WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2013 #14

You've got it, all right Hekate Apr 2013 #54

Had to giggle... WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2013 #66

I went to the classes with a friend; one night a man came in to warn us about college!!! Hekate Apr 2013 #67

This could be promising shenmue Apr 2013 #15

Looks like this guy is a reformer. I hope the church lets him do it. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #16

Lets him do what? skepticscott Apr 2013 #26

Well like you i am skeptical that anything will really be reformed. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #27

In other words, nothing but superficial fluff skepticscott Apr 2013 #29

Well maybe God would listen to you my friend. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #30

He has a "chance" whether I give him one or not skepticscott Apr 2013 #31

Well i think we will put you in the not impressed category. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #32

yay! the pope formed a *committee* Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #28

Yet it is only through this committee that change can happen. This is how things Cal33 Apr 2013 #48

maybe the church and obama need to change more than advisors then. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #63

It's too early for me to be saying anything about Pope Francis, but Obama seems Cal33 Apr 2013 #68

Doncha know? theHandpuppet Apr 2013 #62

Like Watching Grass Grow bucolic_frolic Apr 2013 #39

I'd like to see more St. Louis Cardinals on the panel. olddad56 Apr 2013 #51

I would recommend Yadier Molina - he's one tough little dude! Red State Rebel Apr 2013 #71

Next item on the agenda: bring in the nuns! Hekate Apr 2013 #52

I am hopeful this pope JNelson6563 Apr 2013 #58

Me too. Beacool Apr 2013 #59

Honestly, I'd prefer not to give a shit about any of this. nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #60

Pope Francis Supports Crackdown on US Nuns muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #64

Isn't it possible for Pope Francis to both support the humanitarian work of US nuns, and also Cal33 Apr 2013 #69

He's not 'cracking down on abortion'; he's cracking down on the nuns muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #70

I see what you mean. These nuns are devoted to humanitarian work, and Church authorities Cal33 Apr 2013 #72