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45. And he's been in the office for how long now? A month?

Sun Apr 14, 2013, 10:57 AM

Apr 2013

Already what he has said and done (with this latest announcement) has been more than Benedict did in all his time in the chair.

Of course Francis realizes the damage that has been done. That was something else that Benedict hardly ever did, except when he was pressed to do so, and then only grudgingly. I think he is committed to making changes and cleaning out the curia (which this sounds like to me) is an excellent place to start.

I'm keeping an open mind; yours, apparently, will not be changed no matter what, which is okay. But to slam the man for not coming in and changing the whole culture overnight is a bit unfair, IMO.

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Pope Francis Advisory Council To Reform Church With Permanent Panel Of 8 Cardinals [View all] Beacool Apr 2013 OP

Liking the lack of Curia insiders in that group. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #1

Exactly!! Beacool Apr 2013 #2

I agree that term limits for the Curia would be a great idea, but it's unlikely to happen. It Cal33 Apr 2013 #43

Didn't he tell Curia members he needed them to "stay on for now"? Hekate Apr 2013 #53

Next step is to announce that the Pope is not infallible LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #3

Learn what the idea of infallibility actually means. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #5

It must be pretty badly misnamed, then. nt caseymoz Apr 2013 #9

Meh. The definition's quite specific and has been set down for centuries. Posteritatis Apr 2013 #10

Easy sneezy. timdog44 Apr 2013 #18

Or people can spend 30 seconds with Google and figure it out themselves. Posteritatis Apr 2013 #19

Still can not timdog44 Apr 2013 #20

As far as the Pope is concerned, okasha Apr 2013 #21

Wrong. rug Apr 2013 #22

Thanks rug. timdog44 Apr 2013 #23

You're welcome. People on both sides of religion get prickly quickly. rug Apr 2013 #24

Because we should all be acquainted with the marvelous caseymoz Apr 2013 #33

Why not do them a favor and spell it out for them? Below is what I learned in catechism class Cal33 Apr 2013 #47

Sigh... AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #36

Yes. I learned that Popes are like light switches. Heywood J Apr 2013 #42

If that were the case, there would be ex cathedra statements every week. AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #44

Oh, I understand about speaking ex-cathedra. I was a good Catholic boy for years. Heywood J Apr 2013 #46

Reading suggestion for an interesting discussion of infallibility: AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #56

He's only considered infallible in extremely limited circumstances Ken Burch Apr 2013 #61

Not again... Drahthaardogs Apr 2013 #65

With 50% women on the panel, I'm sure, efhmc Apr 2013 #4

+100 theHandpuppet Apr 2013 #50

Why would anyone be excited about this? skepticscott Apr 2013 #6

For a Church that moves slowly it is an interesting development, but I will take a wait hrmjustin Apr 2013 #25

This is a "holy crap" moment in the Church TrogL Apr 2013 #34

I am happy to see he wants to do some reforming. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #35

Shaken? Hardly. skepticscott Apr 2013 #40

Because this rarely happens in the Church? AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #37

It would be pretty difficult skepticscott Apr 2013 #41

And he's been in the office for how long now? A month? AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #45

Slamming? Oh, please skepticscott Apr 2013 #49

And who's to say that he won't set in motion reform? AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #55

Who's to say he will? You? skepticscott Apr 2013 #57

How about having nuns who've spent their lives doing missionary The Second Stone Apr 2013 #7

Not a bad idea. Beacool Apr 2013 #8

Nuns should have a seat at table, period. AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #38

Vatican III: The Search for Spock. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #11

... Javaman Apr 2013 #12

Funny guy!! Beacool Apr 2013 #13

Bravo! Paulie Apr 2013 #17

It's been a long time... WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2013 #14

You've got it, all right Hekate Apr 2013 #54

Had to giggle... WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2013 #66

I went to the classes with a friend; one night a man came in to warn us about college!!! Hekate Apr 2013 #67

This could be promising shenmue Apr 2013 #15

Looks like this guy is a reformer. I hope the church lets him do it. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #16

Lets him do what? skepticscott Apr 2013 #26

Well like you i am skeptical that anything will really be reformed. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #27

In other words, nothing but superficial fluff skepticscott Apr 2013 #29

Well maybe God would listen to you my friend. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #30

He has a "chance" whether I give him one or not skepticscott Apr 2013 #31

Well i think we will put you in the not impressed category. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #32

yay! the pope formed a *committee* Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #28

Yet it is only through this committee that change can happen. This is how things Cal33 Apr 2013 #48

maybe the church and obama need to change more than advisors then. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #63

It's too early for me to be saying anything about Pope Francis, but Obama seems Cal33 Apr 2013 #68

Doncha know? theHandpuppet Apr 2013 #62

Like Watching Grass Grow bucolic_frolic Apr 2013 #39

I'd like to see more St. Louis Cardinals on the panel. olddad56 Apr 2013 #51

I would recommend Yadier Molina - he's one tough little dude! Red State Rebel Apr 2013 #71

Next item on the agenda: bring in the nuns! Hekate Apr 2013 #52

I am hopeful this pope JNelson6563 Apr 2013 #58

Me too. Beacool Apr 2013 #59

Honestly, I'd prefer not to give a shit about any of this. nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #60

Pope Francis Supports Crackdown on US Nuns muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #64

Isn't it possible for Pope Francis to both support the humanitarian work of US nuns, and also Cal33 Apr 2013 #69

He's not 'cracking down on abortion'; he's cracking down on the nuns muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #70

I see what you mean. These nuns are devoted to humanitarian work, and Church authorities Cal33 Apr 2013 #72