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In reply to the discussion: Anti-Thatcher protest in London's Trafalgar Square [View all]steve2470
(37,481 posts)76. Lady Thatcher funeral arrangements under fire as Big Ben is silenced
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/15/lady-thatcher-funeral-arrangements-criticised
The bells of Big Ben and the Great Clock at Westminster are to be silenced as a mark of respect during Wednesday's ceremonial funeral for Lady Thatcher, the Commons Speaker has announced.
As unease about the scale of the funeral spread across political parties, John Bercow told MPs that silencing the bells was the most fitting tribute to the late prime minister following a number of representations. It is thought the bells were last silenced as a mark of respect during the funeral of Winston Churchill in 1965.
But the statement by Bercow came as Diane Abbott, the shadow health minister, became the first member of the Labour frontbench to criticise the funeral, which will involve more than 700 military personnel from the three armed forces.
One senior Tory is planning to boycott the funeral on the grounds that the Queen, whose aides are understood to have raised concerns about associating a divisive prime minister with the military on such a large scale, has been placed in an invidious position. It is understood that a number of Tories blame Gordon Brown for pushing for such a large scale funeral for Thatcher when he was prime minister, giving the palace no choice but to accept an invitation for the Queen on the grounds that the ceremony has cross-party consensus.
The bells of Big Ben and the Great Clock at Westminster are to be silenced as a mark of respect during Wednesday's ceremonial funeral for Lady Thatcher, the Commons Speaker has announced.
As unease about the scale of the funeral spread across political parties, John Bercow told MPs that silencing the bells was the most fitting tribute to the late prime minister following a number of representations. It is thought the bells were last silenced as a mark of respect during the funeral of Winston Churchill in 1965.
But the statement by Bercow came as Diane Abbott, the shadow health minister, became the first member of the Labour frontbench to criticise the funeral, which will involve more than 700 military personnel from the three armed forces.
One senior Tory is planning to boycott the funeral on the grounds that the Queen, whose aides are understood to have raised concerns about associating a divisive prime minister with the military on such a large scale, has been placed in an invidious position. It is understood that a number of Tories blame Gordon Brown for pushing for such a large scale funeral for Thatcher when he was prime minister, giving the palace no choice but to accept an invitation for the Queen on the grounds that the ceremony has cross-party consensus.
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and i wonder where these kind of protests were in the US after Reagan's death in 2004.
alp227
Apr 2013
#1
He was trained as an actor and had the California cowboy/great communicator shit down.
Hissyspit
Apr 2013
#5
There were protests. They were more subdued because Reagan had been "punished" already,
MADem
Apr 2013
#56
He spoke about it on TV (justifiably angrily) and later(more calmly) in a NYT interview....
MADem
Apr 2013
#60
Agreed. But didn't know that happened to Nancy. A bad day, made worse by Cheney.
freshwest
Apr 2013
#72
Yeeeah, Americans don't get to throw stones in that particular glass house. (nt)
Posteritatis
Apr 2013
#19
Not true. Yes, Britain appeased Hitler for too long, but this ended in September 1939 as a
LeftishBrit
Apr 2013
#48
Since I'd guess that people of every nation on earth impart different levels of "prestige"
whathehell
Apr 2013
#33
Yeah, but UK kept Thatcher on for 12 years, with the capability to dump her at any time.
MADem
Apr 2013
#61
Am I misunderstanding the whole "motion of no confidence" proviso in the Westminster form of
MADem
Apr 2013
#67
Twenty times in the last 231 years isn't really common, but not really rare either.
MADem
Apr 2013
#74
To be honest, I don't think most horrible leaders would care too much what people say about them
LeftishBrit
Apr 2013
#49
Thank you; but 'wise' would have been not to elect Maggie Thatcher in the first place!
LeftishBrit
Apr 2013
#43
His death to Alzheimmer's was a long drawn out affair, so the glee was diffused.
freshwest
Apr 2013
#35
"His death due to Alzheimer's was a long drawn out affair so the glee was diffused"
whathehell
Apr 2013
#57
I think what freshwest said was entirely clear, and I think you are, at minimum, nitpicking, and
MADem
Apr 2013
#71
How nice that you did not grave-dance, but to suggest that others did not, or that the person
MADem
Apr 2013
#70
Um no, and your need to continually couch your accusations with qualifiers, i.e. "rather" accusatory
whathehell
Apr 2013
#79
By your words we certainly do know you. And I'm quite confident in my assertions. nt
MADem
Apr 2013
#80
Keep telling yourself that dear, because your powers of persuasion seem to be failing
whathehell
Apr 2013
#86
Keep going, dear.....At any moment, someone may give you that attention you so obviously crave
whathehell
Apr 2013
#88