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steve2470

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30. Thatcher funeral to match theatre of Churchill's – but differences are stark
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:09 PM
Apr 2013
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/15/thatcher-funeral-scale-churchill-differences



It was, Patrick O'Donovan noted in the Observer, as if "the City was stopped and was turned into a theatre, and it was all performed as a drama that all men understand". The funeral cortege moved slowly from the Palace of Westminster to St Paul's cathedral, through packed streets lined with silent troops, "their heads bowed over their automatic rifles in ceremonious grief". Beneath heraldic banners and attended by straight-backed officers, the gun carriage carrying the body of the former prime minister "moved, huge and red with the union flag, past hotels and steamy restaurants and newspaper offices and pubs" on its solemn journey to the cathedral.

For those who witnessed the funeral of Winston Churchill on 30 January 1965, there will be a great deal in Margaret Thatcher's funeral on Wednesday that will be very familiar. Like the wartime leader, who also died from a stroke, Thatcher's coffin will travel up Ludgate Hill to St Paul's in a display of full military pomp, accompanied by bands playing slow laments, their drums covered with black cloths. Political leaders will be joined by dignitaries from around the world in paying their respects, as her body is carried with great dignity by ten soldiers up the west steps of the cathedral. The bells of Big Ben will be hushed for the first time since Churchill was laid to rest.

Though the baroness's body will not formally lie in state to allow members of the public to file past – as the wartime leader's did, attracting more than 300,000 people to Westminster Hall – at her own request her coffin will spend the night before its funeral and cremation in the medieval parliamentary chapel of St Mary Undercroft to allow MPs and peers to pay their respects.

And critically, just as she was 48 years ago, the Queen will be there, the first prime ministerial funeral she has attended since then, during which no fewer than six prime ministers have died – Anthony Eden, Harold Macmillan, Alec Douglas-Home, Harold Wilson, Edward Heath and James Callaghan.

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We should have done this for ronnie raygun Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #1
+1,000,000,000,000 Dawson Leery Apr 2013 #2
-1,000,000,000,000 mike978 Apr 2013 #18
loving that ronnie raygun, son? door is that way! -----------------> Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2013 #34
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At least they now experience what extreme global warming feels like! Amonester Apr 2013 #5
Yeah...isn't it ironic. AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #11
can they arrest a corpse in a casket? "harassment, alarm or distress" MisterP Apr 2013 #3
+1 hrmjustin Apr 2013 #16
Just curious... silvershadow Apr 2013 #4
Yeah that seems a little bizarre. progressoid Apr 2013 #6
as long as they do it in a "Free Speech Zone" FreeBC Apr 2013 #8
link to the text of the law: steve2470 Apr 2013 #9
To avoid misinterpretation of what a coordinated movement might suggest is going to happen next... MrModerate Apr 2013 #10
It's more playing it safe Prophet 451 Apr 2013 #14
Misinterpreted as what? ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #29
Lord knows Prophet 451 Apr 2013 #31
To avoid the farce of being arresting for not smiling at the Olympics: muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #33
poor guy nt steve2470 Apr 2013 #59
I keep being reminded how much conservatives were dancing on Hugo's grave. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #7
Hardly a fair comparison mike978 Apr 2013 #17
Chavez didn't steal any of the elections despite the noise in US media.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #19
We were talking about Thatcher and Chavez mike978 Apr 2013 #20
The UK doesn't have our two party system. Thatcher never won with a majority. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #21
Exactly, that is why 42% is quite an achievement in the UK mike978 Apr 2013 #22
Why do you insist on the notion Chavez pulled a fast one? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #23
I didn`t invoke Chavez first mike978 Apr 2013 #24
BIG DIFFERENCE. Chavez was loved and Thatcher was hated. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #25
By some mike978 Apr 2013 #26
But Thatcher really WAS "bad". Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #27
She had good and bad points mike978 Apr 2013 #32
LOL!!! "Reasonable" Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #35
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Thatcher HATED the unions. She wasn't motivated by a sense of fairness. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #37
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Well,...nobody at the Wall Street Journal. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #41
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Do you honestly expect to sell the notion that the Labour Party is Liberal? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #48
With that, and your Reagan Love, you made it very clear where you stand. Thank you for being earnest 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #40
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Post 18, but you knew that already. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #43
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No, I do mean #18. And, again, you know that. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #47
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"Thatcher had good and bad points" Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #49
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My point? Thatcher sucked. So did Reagan... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #54
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So you were a KID back then... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #57
Ford created the assembly line. Who cares about the dissemination of the Protocols of the Elders of Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2013 #60
Wanna see someone cool? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #62
I love that story Kingofalldems Apr 2013 #56
I'm confused. I alerted this person as a RW troll and the jury voted 2-4 to keep his posts Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2013 #61
But no mooning. EOM cartach Apr 2013 #12
I hope they eat lots of beans first Tempest Apr 2013 #13
Because Thatch was a tireless champion of freedom. Orsino Apr 2013 #15
Turning one's back on thatcher's coffin sends the best message..feels grand when you do it, also... Tikki Apr 2013 #28
Thatcher funeral to match theatre of Churchill's – but differences are stark steve2470 Apr 2013 #30
Well, that'll teach her a lesson. trof Apr 2013 #46
How nice of the police to allow the protest! tabasco Apr 2013 #58
WTF?! Someone FARTS during the funeral of THATCHER aureliemag Apr 2013 #63
Welcome to DU aureliemag! hrmjustin Apr 2013 #64
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