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71. Wow, I've never looked at it that way. Obama has been trying to cut SS since 2009.

Tue Apr 16, 2013, 07:27 AM

Apr 2013

"January 16, 2009 -President-elect Barack Obama pledged yesterday to shape a new Social Security and Medicare "bargain" with the American people, saying that the nation's long-term economic recovery cannot be attained unless the government finally gets control over its most costly entitlement programs."

Funny how he says 2 different things at different times but continually does one thing - tries to gut our Social Security pensions.

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Republicans embrace Obama�s offer to trim Social Security benefits [View all] Faygo Kid Apr 2013 OP

Obama was bluffing. GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #1

Sorry, i'm not buying what Obama is selling. Tender to the Bone Apr 2013 #4

Sorry wrong rtracey Apr 2013 #123

Sure Joe Bacon Apr 2013 #124

Hey, cool sig! MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #60

Yeah, and the Repukes are going to call. Here is a picture of this bit of governance Doctor_J Apr 2013 #79

Now they need to embrace tax reform Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #2

Which will not happen. emulatorloo Apr 2013 #12

Unless they want to hear the uproar from the base Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #18

You think the Repukes' base will be clamoring for tax hikes? Doctor_J Apr 2013 #80

You have it backwards Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #84

Ah, they fell for it! DJ13 Apr 2013 #3

Yep, he loss his game of chess ... but it was his strategy ... RKP5637 Apr 2013 #6

Wake me up when the Republicans embrace raising taxes. emulatorloo Apr 2013 #20

I hope that's the way it goes. RKP5637 Apr 2013 #24

A clever move on the part of the Republicans, perhaps..... AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #40

How do you figure? BlueStreak Apr 2013 #66

Damned straight! Remember in December when they REFUSED to raise taxes? MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #61

Oh Manny please false narratives are beneath you... Drew Richards Apr 2013 #89

can you expand on what MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #99

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #126

Can you imagine daybranch Apr 2013 #75

Yup, GOP Is In A Lose/Lose Here Skraxx Apr 2013 #97

Yeah! You are pleased. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #102

No, I'm NOT pleased DJ13 Apr 2013 #112

It is sad but true, it seems. Jamastiene Apr 2013 #103

Soylent Green has to be just around the corner. RKP5637 Apr 2013 #5

I'm probably overly cynical but the movie ended too soon. delrem Apr 2013 #108

Yeah ... maybe even a sequel! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #110

So much for all the "12-dimensional chess" theories. femmocrat Apr 2013 #7

ya, they are all out in the yard maindawg Apr 2013 #8

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #9

Or maybe the DU Doomsday Scenario won't play out emulatorloo Apr 2013 #10

The DU Doomsday Scenario rarely plays out. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #16

Some folks love having their hair on fire, I guess emulatorloo Apr 2013 #23

So Phlem Apr 2013 #30

How unwavering of you. nt truebluegreen Apr 2013 #36

I've seen a lot of this in action, and not just with stuff like this, but in general........ AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #42

It's like a toad in slowly heating water. Haven't you noticed? nt delrem Apr 2013 #50

And why, exactly, do you think the WH backed off of CCPI so quickly? cui bono Apr 2013 #101

What on earth are you talking about? Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #104

I'm talking about the fact that there hasn't been a peep about it since the backlash. cui bono Apr 2013 #105

There wouldn't have been a peep about it in any event. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #111

Oh, I hope you are right. But I'm certain you're not. cui bono Apr 2013 #118

How about we meet here Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #120

No, the R's will agree to a token tax rise, now they're cutting to the bone. delrem Apr 2013 #54

it's playing out now with the sequester Enrique Apr 2013 #115

Who could have predicted this? blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #11

In 2 weeks Boehner will be storming out of the negotiations emulatorloo Apr 2013 #15

IOW, you are hoping that Boehner saves Democrats and OASDI from Obama? merrily Apr 2013 #53

No, I understand that this is a big fake deal emulatorloo Apr 2013 #125

Obama must have been planning this since before his inauguration. merrily Apr 2013 #127

And I predict that is not all they want. zeemike Apr 2013 #17

As we all know Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #13

Funny, I can't remember a DEMOCRAT ever mentioning it until now. MNBrewer Apr 2013 #32

A True Democrat didn't mention it this time. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #39

HERESY!!!! MNBrewer Apr 2013 #44

What can I say? truebluegreen Apr 2013 #46

I believe Clinton and Carter Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #68

What did they propose? MNBrewer Apr 2013 #72

Carter yes...but Clinton you gotta be f@@#%@#& kidding me Drew Richards Apr 2013 #88

+1000 n/t truebluegreen Apr 2013 #37

That is the job of Republicans, their duty to their base. The job of Democrats is to oppose them, merrily Apr 2013 #57

+10000 Liberalynn Apr 2013 #91

You realize that's far worse than him having put it in at the Republican's request? cui bono Apr 2013 #106

I don't know where this idiocy is coming from, really. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #109

Well now you're contradicting yourself. You said no GOP ever mentioned touching SS. n/t cui bono Apr 2013 #117

Where did I say THAT? n/t Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #121

YAWN Iliyah Apr 2013 #14

Well let's hope it is negative bullshit. zeemike Apr 2013 #21

Are you sure he isn't trying to cut entitlements? merrily Apr 2013 #59

Wow, I've never looked at it that way. Obama has been trying to cut SS since 2009. fasttense Apr 2013 #71

But-but-but... brooklynite Apr 2013 #19

Obama legacy the destruction of SS and Medicare bowens43 Apr 2013 #22

Privatization is the next logical progression. jsr Apr 2013 #25

You know, your post convinces me that this is, ultimately, wiggs Apr 2013 #52

There are at least ten ways not to weaken OASDI without CCPI. merrily Apr 2013 #65

Honestly, how does that make any sense? cui bono Apr 2013 #107

Maybe its the start of CPI or maybe its the start of the republicans being stupid and cstanleytech Apr 2013 #26

Obama's been pretty good at brinkmanship......n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #43

..as the unwavering apologists frantically search for a new meme. forestpath Apr 2013 #27

Obama's proposal came with non-negotiable attachments bhikkhu Apr 2013 #28

Non-negotiable AND just a starting point? MNBrewer Apr 2013 #31

As in, if you want chained CPI, that's the price bhikkhu Apr 2013 #34

I don't recall "non-negotiable" being mentioned about anything MNBrewer Apr 2013 #38

No, CCPI is not inevitable and it does not preserve the income OASDI recipients. merrily Apr 2013 #67

Non-negotiable. Yeah, first, best and last offer that always works with a co-equal merrily Apr 2013 #62

Can you link to the description of that offset, please? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #69

Me neither Liberalynn Apr 2013 #95

Didn't you know this budget has only one line in it? treestar Apr 2013 #74

�It�s too bad it�s in the budget,� Pelosi said. MNBrewer Apr 2013 #29

No, No, No... Phlem Apr 2013 #35

She also said that changes to the COLA were not cuts. Not as though she knows better merrily Apr 2013 #64

what happens daybranch Apr 2013 #33

DeFazio on Chained CPI dhpgetsit Apr 2013 #41

Good job DeFazio. JEB Apr 2013 #56

Awesome! MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #63

We don't want the apologists' bubble to burst Doctor_J Apr 2013 #78

Brilliant Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #81

When The Floodgates Open ... cantbeserious Apr 2013 #45

News flash -- GOP loves this pile of shit Blue Owl Apr 2013 #47

I think yours is a bogus posit. cliffordu Apr 2013 #48

The R's will go for a token tax raise in exchange for this. It's worth it for them. Full stop. delrem Apr 2013 #49

Why don't those embracing chained CPI JEB Apr 2013 #51

Third Way Democrats should join them in that line Liberalynn Apr 2013 #96

Third way Democrats JEB Apr 2013 #113

So much for 12 dimensional checkers. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #55

Hahahaha... Yes, the republicans support Obama's Offer... we know. fascisthunter Apr 2013 #58

So where is the Lewinsky of our times to save SS ? jakeXT Apr 2013 #70

Even if there was one, the GOP wouldn't Myrina Apr 2013 #85

Thanks I had never seen that article dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #90

But I thought the GOP were going to reject it and run on saving SS in 2014. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #73

Indeed, NOW The GOP is Going to "Use' Obama to Gut SS! IOW, Obama is Just Too Stupid, Too Naive and Skraxx Apr 2013 #92

Not only that ... JoePhilly Apr 2013 #94

Awesome, they are going to go there. nt bemildred Apr 2013 #76

Win-win for Boner Doctor_J Apr 2013 #77

and today Obama proposes privatizing the TVA, another New Deal landmark yurbud Apr 2013 #82

This is not good. blackspade Apr 2013 #83

When Obama's idea of a tax break was a Soc Sec. tax "holiday," HomeboyHombre Apr 2013 #86

Relax, it's just the next move on this global thermonuclear chess game. progressoid Apr 2013 #87

STOP IT PROGRESSOID Skittles Apr 2013 #93

OF COURSE right on schedule! GOP grips and complains BUT behind they scenes they diabeticman Apr 2013 #98

Obama was not bluffing. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #100

Bluffing and it's bullshit. Stop listing to propaganda. santamargarita Apr 2013 #114

no one here is LISTING Skittles Apr 2013 #116

Obama's legacy? libdude Apr 2013 #119

Whatever Obama's intentions were with this drm604 Apr 2013 #122