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Fortinbras Armstrong

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5. Yes, torturers should be imprisoned
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 09:12 AM
Apr 2013

Torture is prohibited under 18 USC § 2340. See See also § 2340A, which says that those who order the torture are just as culpable (note: I tried to link to this, but the link would not work). I should mention the Supreme Court case of Wilkerson v. Utah, 99 U.S. 130 (1879). Justice Clifford, in delivering the opinion of the Court, said:

Difficulty would attend the effort to define with exactness the extent of the constitutional provision which provides that cruel and unusual punishments shall not be inflicted; but it is safe to affirm that punishments of torture, such as those mentioned by the commentator referred to, and all others in the same line of unnecessary cruelty, are forbidden by that amendment to the Constitution.


(The "commenter" is Blackstone.)

There is also the UN Convention Against Torture, to which the US is a signatory. See in particular Article 1 and Article 16.

Actually, should Khalid Sheikh Mohammed get his day in court, virtually all evidence against him will have to be thrown out because it was obtained under torture. See Brown v. Mississippi, 297 U.S. 278 (1936) for the legal precedent. Thank you, Bushmen.

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Bush made torture an American value duhneece Apr 2013 #1
Yes, torturers should be imprisoned Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2013 #5
Yes. And since torture is prohibited by 18 USC § 2340, 18 USC § 3 is also applicable: AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #12
USA - the land of do as we say, not as we do. nt avebury Apr 2013 #2
As Boss Tweed said, mpcamb Apr 2013 #3
Sadly, Tweed was a Democrat. Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #19
He was a crook. mpcamb Apr 2013 #20
Other estimates put it at $200 million -- in 1877 dollars Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2013 #23
Yeah. A Democrat and a crook. Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #31
The silly shits seem to think if you don't call it torture, then it's not torture. bemildred Apr 2013 #4
Oh yes. Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2013 #6
And the war crimes trials begin in three, two, one ..... Coyotl Apr 2013 #7
It took them 12 years to figure out the obvious? blackspade Apr 2013 #8
Impeachment is off the table! OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #9
No shit. Solly Mack Apr 2013 #10
I think reports like this are extremely important hepkat Apr 2013 #11
Then let's keep it kicked. Solly Mack Apr 2013 #13
self kick hepkat Apr 2013 #14
Not if you feel the issue is an important one. Solly Mack Apr 2013 #15
I don't! grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #26
. Solly Mack Apr 2013 #30
The report, a long one, can be found here: AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #16
Good article. I posted it over in "good reads" -- got ignored just1voice Apr 2013 #17
I thought we already knew this sakabatou Apr 2013 #18
There's knowing and there's bipartisan commission confirmation hepkat Apr 2013 #21
True sakabatou Apr 2013 #24
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2013 #22
Torture is a crime. Torture is wrong. In the words of GWB: grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #25
K&R, idwiyo Apr 2013 #27
There is no statute of limitations on deaths resulting from torture... Jefferson23 Apr 2013 #28
This report got lost in the other news realFedUp Apr 2013 #29
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