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In reply to the discussion: US to hike H1B visas, merit will count for green cards [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)185. The H-1B blocks that.
What you're desperately failing to understand is the H-1B does not make the immigrant and the citizen the same.
The H-1B, in fact, doesn't even make an immigrant. It's a non-immigrant visa.
People are only "hurt" by these visas in the same way that people are "hurt" by other types of immigration
Go re-read my previous posts, where I explain in graphic detail how both the visa holder and citizens are hurt by H-1B visas.
Because you're so busy arguing, it's abundantly clear you aren't bothering to read anything other people write.
How about we actually try to sensibly regulate the markets, instead of leaving those regulations up to big business and then discriminating against people who are just trying to make the best for themselves in the same shitty market as everyone else.
How 'bout you actually try to read what people are writing. Because then you'd understand that the H-1B is killing the goat and salting the fields of both farmers.
I can't say this enough: in this world, we have enough resources to give every single person a comfortable standard of living. I would rather work on that than wish death on my neighbour's goat.
Then you should HATE the H-1B visa. But you don't understand what it does, and are not willing to find out.
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Perhaps help our immigration process so they don't have to wait over TEN YEARS to become a citizen?
cascadiance
Apr 2013
#60
This is about increasing the number of visas not about re-issuing visas for people
JDPriestly
Apr 2013
#73
Cue the hypocritical, xenophobic comments of people who claim to be for human equality. (nt)
harmonicon
Apr 2013
#48
Yep. No way that Americans can compete against there foreign supergeniuses
Freddie Stubbs
Apr 2013
#66
You're absolutely right and comp science enrollments are soaring and have been the past few years
OhioChick
Apr 2013
#124
Just when you think it's not possible for this government to be any more brazen. nt
Jerry442
Apr 2013
#4
"Why should someone who is Asian or from India be excluded just because of who they are?"
mac56
Apr 2013
#8
My ancestors were poor, escaping religious persecution, seeking to work hard
JDPriestly
Apr 2013
#77
If we should be all "equal" then why don't you argue for OUR right to have an equal cost of living..
cascadiance
Apr 2013
#145
I'm largely in agreement with you, but this thread was bout a type of immigration.
harmonicon
Apr 2013
#146
Well, if you were offered $400k a year for moving across the world for a few years, would you do it?
cascadiance
Apr 2013
#149
I want people who want to move here for a job to be looking to become a citizen here...
cascadiance
Apr 2013
#155
India is not a great place to live. If it were, we would not have so many Indians
JDPriestly
Apr 2013
#191
According to this study "nationalism" is the one common thread uniting far-right groups.
pampango
Apr 2013
#226
Have you noticed that I have lived in other countries? If you read my posts, you know
JDPriestly
Apr 2013
#192
The reality is: the Chamber of Commerce has bought and paid for immigration policy.
alp227
Apr 2013
#45
When their families live with a cost of living ONE TENTH of what we as American families live at...
cascadiance
Apr 2013
#46
Yes. That is why I support the policy behind the Dream Act. People who want to stay
JDPriestly
Apr 2013
#195
But calling people xenophobic because they support jobs for people who are citizens or residents
davidpdx
Apr 2013
#235
And think how well they would do if they took their experience and know-how and
JDPriestly
Apr 2013
#194
It isn't a matter of "coming first." It's a matter of the responsibility and duty of the
JDPriestly
Apr 2013
#71
I don't hate the visa, because I don't hate the person who would use it to make their life better.
harmonicon
Apr 2013
#190
I cannot fucking believe there's something I'm in 100% agreement with you about!! (nt)
harmonicon
Apr 2013
#49
Would those Asian nations let thousands upon thousands of Americans take they good jobs?
LiberalEsto
Apr 2013
#120
I'll let you work out most of the logical contradictions you made by yourself. (nt)
harmonicon
Apr 2013
#89
Being born outside the U.S. affords you SPECIAL PRIVILEGES of being able to pay less...
cascadiance
Apr 2013
#156
But those who get screwed by a high cost of living with this "equality", SCREW THEM, right? n/t
cascadiance
Apr 2013
#162
By getting that H1-B visa and job offer in the US, that worker now has one more job open to them.
harmonicon
Apr 2013
#184
You were just arguing it was about freedom. Now you're arguing slavery is freedom.
jeff47
Apr 2013
#186
Yes. If you cannot sell your labor freely in a market in competition with other employees,
JDPriestly
Apr 2013
#205
Yes. The H1-B visas work to skew the job market. That is precisely what they do.
JDPriestly
Apr 2013
#202
Sounds like you are advocating either anarchy or an international dictatorship.
JDPriestly
Apr 2013
#201
Utopia may not exist in our lifetime, but sensible immigration policy might.
harmonicon
Apr 2013
#248
I would bet that his/her parents came here at a time in which the US was expanding
JDPriestly
Apr 2013
#207
Oh, yeah, there was no racial discrimination in the north at all. No sir. (nt)
harmonicon
Apr 2013
#232
"... other countries protect the jobs of their citizens, unlike the U.S." - not true in Europe.
pampango
Apr 2013
#98
So how about you get people to be as vocal about that idea as they are in their fear?
harmonicon
Apr 2013
#59
We have made a promise and are required by law to give equal protection of the law
JDPriestly
Apr 2013
#79
I think that people who are citizens, people who were born here or are naturalized
JDPriestly
Apr 2013
#178
In the 'real world' your 'rights' do depend "basically on luck & good fortune - the luck and good
pampango
Apr 2013
#240
Not my field, but this article from a google search appears to contradict the OP.
proverbialwisdom
Apr 2013
#40
Democrats supporting this absolute POS bill WILL get me to leave the Democratic Party!!!
cascadiance
Apr 2013
#44
So let me see if I got this right: A country that's at 15% real unemployment . . .
HughBeaumont
Apr 2013
#151
excellent post. I would add one thing...exactly WHAT are laid off workers supposed to train for?
antigop
Apr 2013
#236
I hate corporation-favoring zero-sum business practices, which job offshoring very much is.
HughBeaumont
Apr 2013
#244