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36. I'm starting to think that she will run

Wed Apr 24, 2013, 10:34 PM

Apr 2013

And if she runs, then she is likely to win IMO. It isn't true that she was as much a front runner in the run-up to 2008 that she is today (although people love to deliver that narrative). In 2007 the race started out kind of like a latter-day version of Gary Hart vs. Mario Cuomo in 1988, before Hart was knocked out of the race, and Cuomo chose not to run. The early polling had Clinton up by about 15 points. She was polling in the mid-30s with Obama in the low 20s. Than she went out and built up a big lead, which was made out by the media to be a lead that she inherited from her husband and had all along. Hillary was made out to be a de facto incumbent who was running for Bill's third term, but until that point the entire story of her career was about the fact that she wasn't Bill Clinton and was never able to inherit his advantages--she had to struggle and persevere to win people over on her own.

I like O'Malley a lot and I think Elizabeth Warren is terrific. I would be more than happy to support either one of them if they were the nominee.

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(MD Governor) O'Malley says he's considering White House run [View all] charlie and algernon Apr 2013 OP

I'd support him Cirque du So-What Apr 2013 #1

I live in Maryland bigworld Apr 2013 #11

I heard that speculation about Jay Nixon loyalsister Apr 2013 #82

Me, too. Nothing against Hillary, but I like O'Malley's style. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #51

From time to time when his band is playing, me and some friends go to hear them. He's damn talented. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #54

And his progressive policies are pretty damn good, too. ;-) eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #68

Good looking should be irrelevant. Say that about a woman and without a doubt you're a sexist. 24601 Apr 2013 #61

O'Malley's positions and policies: very progressive. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #67

Age makes a difference antigop Apr 2013 #70

I am a woman and I think he's damn good looking. Nothing sexist about it. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #71

Ummm, isn't that the very definition of sexist? Thor_MN Apr 2013 #80

But it is so much more fun to watch them when they are DebJ Apr 2013 #75

Dude, I'm all yours in 2024 TygrBright Apr 2013 #2

Exceallent point. Her being a woman is FAR more important abq e streeter Apr 2013 #8

You don't think Marty's a progressive, do you? TygrBright Apr 2013 #9

No reference to him whatsoever in my post. abq e streeter Apr 2013 #12

Change "a" to "an" and insert "electable" after it. n/t TygrBright Apr 2013 #18

I have said elsewhere that if she's the nominee ,I will most certainly vote for her. abq e streeter Apr 2013 #24

Elizabeth is absolutely electable hootinholler Apr 2013 #31

no she's not. not even a little bit. cali Apr 2013 #83

I also support Elizabeth Warren. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #60

Surely you don't think Hillary is a Progressive? bahrbearian Apr 2013 #13

Hell, no. I don't think Progressives are electable. TygrBright Apr 2013 #21

Where are you getting this from? Martin O'Malley is NOT a conservative Democrat. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #32

Nothing against Marty, I like him. But he IS a conservative Dem. TygrBright Apr 2013 #34

You have not followed his recent career. kwassa Apr 2013 #35

I need more evidence that O'Malley is a conservative... Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #37

Evidence? You want evidence? No...you need to get in line and accept the "inevitable". nt antigop Apr 2013 #48

LOL!! What's the inevitable? Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #53

Well..you know... the "inevitable" (in quotes). nt antigop Apr 2013 #57

He is a conservative relative to other Democrats, but not compared to Republicans Jake Izzy Apr 2013 #49

I think the 2016 Presidential Dance is "Ladies Choice". nt TeamPooka Apr 2013 #50

For DU, this guy is Atila the Hun!! Relative to other Democrats is *relative* because the party has Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #55

I wonder what you would call a Pennsylvania Dem then... DebJ Apr 2013 #76

Are you familiar with O'Malley's recent liberal legislative wins? JaneQPublic Apr 2013 #78

What was the excuse to elect Obama then? Beacool Apr 2013 #15

Obama actually talked about real progressive ideas BlueStreak Apr 2013 #23

That's fair. Beacool Apr 2013 #28

Ditto for me! Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #43

Sex, Race Shouldn't matter, may the best Qualified person win Heather MC Apr 2013 #44

Fellow black woman chiming in!! I agree with you wholeheartedly!! Ain't gonna happen, unfortunately. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #56

My Sista!!!!!!! I thought I was the only one!! Heather MC Apr 2013 #62

With Kamila Harris as the VP. ;) Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #64

Perfect Off to Kinkos to make emergency late night campaign posters!!!!!! Heather MC Apr 2013 #65

Hillary is not a progressive. She is too conservative. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #59

Hillary voted for the Iraq war! Bradj5 Apr 2013 #69

I'd be more impressed by candidates who don't feel obliged to pay homage to Israel before announcing denverbill Apr 2013 #3

Not one syllable in the article about "paying homage', or asking for/ needing "approval" abq e streeter Apr 2013 #7

Well, someone has to lose to Hillary Renew Deal Apr 2013 #4

Hillary already seems to have her nomination wrapped up on DU. I don't want Hillary. loudsue Apr 2013 #5

Same thing in 2008....Countless posts here on her inevitability as the nominee. abq e streeter Apr 2013 #6

Agreed. I want someone more progressive than Obama. thesquanderer Apr 2013 #10

Correct. colorado_ufo Apr 2013 #14

If Senator Warren waits until 2024 to run she will be 75 years old then. I would say totodeinhere Apr 2013 #17

She had it wrapped up last time too until a guy named Barack Obama came along. totodeinhere Apr 2013 #16

Unlike Obama who at least had been a state senator, Warren had zero legislative experience Beacool Apr 2013 #19

Is this the "3 AM call" argument? BlueStreak Apr 2013 #26

I think that DU and other sites like Kos, Salon, etc. are the ones out of touch Beacool Apr 2013 #29

I think 2016 depends largely on the Republicans more than who we nominate Hippo_Tron Apr 2013 #66

Good point. Beacool Apr 2013 #72

Just having a little fun Renew Deal Apr 2013 #20

Well, too bad. Beacool Apr 2013 #30

I'm starting to think that she will run StevieM Apr 2013 #36

That narrative was mostly media driven. Beacool Apr 2013 #45

It's the "inevitability" meme. nt antigop Apr 2013 #38

Ditto. MoonchildCA Apr 2013 #46

FANTASTIC montanacowboy Apr 2013 #22

O'Malley would be a great president eringer Apr 2013 #25

And he's got a Celtic rock band (O'Malley's March) deutsey Apr 2013 #33

Go O'Malley!! rightsideout Apr 2013 #27

Martin Joseph O'Malley (born January 18, 1963)-- a lot younger than HRC antigop Apr 2013 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author antigop Apr 2013 #41

Oh my! He's younger than I am. MoonchildCA Apr 2013 #47

Two Irish guys in a row? Turbineguy Apr 2013 #40

hee, hee...waiting for O'Malley to say: "We've had enough Clintons." antigop Apr 2013 #42

O'Malley Would be a good pick. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #52

I 'm fine with that. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #58

Lets see what happens in a couple yrs.....as a field shapes up. Historic NY Apr 2013 #63

One nice thing about him running: DU will become much more friendly towards Roman Catholicism (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #73

GO'Malley! KamaAina Apr 2013 #74

He sounds like my kind of candidate. bitchkitty Apr 2013 #77

Does he want to expand the safety net or contract it? Does he support Medicare for all? Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #79

I like O'Malley but I'm for Eliz. Warren - I think we need a woman and Hill is too old wordpix Apr 2013 #81

Errr..........not to burst your bubble, Beacool Apr 2013 #84

OK, I stand corrected, thanks but wordpix Apr 2013 #85