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24. guess I'm not the only with that horrible foreboding

Reply to eridani (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 25, 2013, 09:28 AM

Apr 2013

that Obama once again will go back on his words.

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Tar Sands Pipelines Should Get Special Treatment, EPA Says [View all] G_j Apr 2013 OP

It's a mistake to call what they carry "heavy crude" dpbrown Apr 2013 #1

I never saw the stuff watoos Apr 2013 #2

Simple logic should tell one that.... ReRe Apr 2013 #19

No doubt corrosive chemical reactions are also happening inside the pipe daleo Apr 2013 #41

It's not only corrosive from the toxins added to make it flow arikara Apr 2013 #42

Here's a description from an oil sands scientist daleo Apr 2013 #43

They heat it and mix it with diluting chemicals daleo Apr 2013 #22

Yep, lots of chemicals laundry_queen May 2013 #44

I wonder why GitRDun Apr 2013 #3

Exactly ... build refinery capacity up there Trajan Apr 2013 #5

Labor is cheaper in Texas than in Alberta daleo Apr 2013 #23

If they refined it in place they would still have to transport it to be shipped. Their ports freeze Vincardog Apr 2013 #6

I don't understand your answer GitRDun Apr 2013 #11

If they built refineries in Canada . . . another_liberal Apr 2013 #12

You guys are right on I think GitRDun Apr 2013 #15

Like so many other things, the current plan serves Charles and David Koch.......... wandy Apr 2013 #13

You mentioned climate... ReRe Apr 2013 #20

The largest selling product from the Tar Sands is syncrude FogerRox Apr 2013 #25

I can tell you why. kentauros Apr 2013 #32

The citizens in Alberta want that too. The climate there is not an issue laundry_queen May 2013 #45

Sheesh! GitRDun May 2013 #47

Who is paying for the Nite Owl Apr 2013 #4

They do not pay into the clean up fund because their sludge is not oil. Vincardog Apr 2013 #8

And they should pay rent EC Apr 2013 #9

I hope the EPA has some clout. Bannakaffalatta Apr 2013 #7

I don't think any agency with the word 'environmental' in it has any clout these days. olddad56 Apr 2013 #10

what`s needed is higher strength seamless corrosive proof steel . madrchsod Apr 2013 #14

Charles Pierce: Coming Down The Pipeline eridani Apr 2013 #16

guess I'm not the only with that horrible foreboding G_j Apr 2013 #24

only 45 days for public comment and they will trashcan those comments anyway. Sunlei Apr 2013 #28

I have said it 100 times for years. build refinaries right on the tar sands. Sunlei Apr 2013 #17

They have. #1 product from Tar Sands is syncrude, not bitumen. FogerRox Apr 2013 #26

good and I wish China and the Corp. investors would build their bitumen refinary there too. Sunlei Apr 2013 #27

Well, i wish you'd stop saying it then, Bannakaffalatta Apr 2013 #39

It's easy for the EPA to talk tough now that they know the fix is in byeya Apr 2013 #18

what fix G_j Apr 2013 #21

My guess is that the XL pipeline has already been approved and the EPA can seem to be byeya Apr 2013 #29

unfortunately G_j Apr 2013 #31

Tar sands are toxic, abrasive and corrosive. PDJane Apr 2013 #30

Who's going to convince the Harpoons? Bannakaffalatta Apr 2013 #40

Tar Sands kill, Oil pipelines spill riverbendviewgal Apr 2013 #33

Yes, I did know. PDJane Apr 2013 #34

Did you see the movie? riverbendviewgal Apr 2013 #35

No, I haven't. PDJane Apr 2013 #36

It is playing in the empire theatres riverbendviewgal Apr 2013 #37

wish it came out sooner in the US G_j Apr 2013 #38

That's playing right near my place laundry_queen May 2013 #46