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happyslug

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21. Yes, we need an LBJ or a Truman, and we have a FDR or worse a Cleveland
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 10:52 AM
Apr 2013

FDR has an excellent reputation do to the fact he only had to deal with Democratic Controlled Congresses (and then with overwhelming Democratic Control of Both houses). FDR rarely had to crack the whip (and when he did, it was mostly to keep the left wing of the party in line, After 1936 he was less tolerate of the right wing but he never truly embraced the left wing of the party even after 1936). FDR thus tended to accommodate the Right wing of the Democratic Party, reserving his veto power to veto bills supported by the Left wing (Which included paying the WWI bonus early, FDR veto the bill to do so, but his Veto was overridden by Congress, with even Republican voting to override that Veto).

LBJ had a less compliant Congress (With a lot of soon to be Republican who were still Democrats at that time period). LBJ decision to fight the longest Filibuster in History to get the Civil Rights Bill passed is something both JFK and Obama (as while as Clinton) would have avoided. The problem with Washington right now is we need a LBJ or a Truman, someone who can bend with the wind (as both Truman and LBJ did during their administration, for example LBJ's expansion of the War in Vietnam, something the GOP pushed and most Americans agreed with till 1968 when LBJ started to reduce the number of troops in Vietnam) AND also fight against that wind when they can (LBJ and the Civil Rights Act, his "Great Society Programs", Truman and his efforts to get the economy return to a peacetime economy without a major depression, the first efforts on Civil Rights and his defense of labor with his veto of the Taff-Hartly act).

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If it only affects a couple hundred people neffernin Apr 2013 #1
so tired of this shit frylock Apr 2013 #2
Get used to it - it's going to get RiverNoord Apr 2013 #13
Wow that is going to a gut shot to their economy underpants Apr 2013 #3
It will fail just like it did in Florida. L0oniX Apr 2013 #4
More money wasted on BS. Alabama has kids that only eat at school but they waste money on appleannie1 Apr 2013 #5
who makes and provides these drug tests ?????? olddots Apr 2013 #6
I bet they are lobbying hard for these drug testing laws. moobu2 Apr 2013 #10
Does Pittman get tested too? Brigid Apr 2013 #7
Great Law, completely constitutional and legal happyslug Apr 2013 #8
Federal appeals court has ruled the same law passed in Florida and Arizona violates 4th amendment. Ford_Prefect Apr 2013 #11
This is a bit trickier, though, and is a response to such rulings. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #12
It seems to me that probable cause still must somehow provide evidence otherwise its just hearsay. Ford_Prefect Apr 2013 #14
The Actual Case, was to require TANF recipents to be drug tested, not non-TANF welfare receiptents happyslug Apr 2013 #15
Wow, what a mess. Would this then apply to ALL recipients even those previously approved? Ford_Prefect Apr 2013 #16
Yes, we need an LBJ or a Truman, and we have a FDR or worse a Cleveland happyslug Apr 2013 #21
Next: Turbineguy Apr 2013 #9
Add Indiana to that list. AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #17
*facepalm* sakabatou Apr 2013 #18
Soon to be seen in North Carolina. Ford_Prefect Apr 2013 #19
The is the second crazy bill they've passed in a few months by "cheating"... LannyDeVaney Apr 2013 #20
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