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Kelvin Mace

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47. Here is how the federal statute reads:

Sun Apr 28, 2013, 10:23 PM

Apr 2013

“The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex of another person, without the consent of the victim”

So, I am not relying on "my book" for my opinion.

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Girl, 14, forced to become pregnant with donor sperm bought by mother [View all] alp227 Apr 2013 OP

5 years? DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #1

Rape? thesquanderer Apr 2013 #7

What elements are missing such that you do not consider this rape? nt Xipe Totec Apr 2013 #24

How about no physical contact? (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2013 #25

Amazing that someone could get pregnant without any physical contact! MADem Apr 2013 #26

The mother was not even in the room. Did you read the article? (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2013 #31

She forced her child to put an object into her vagina against her will. bravenak Apr 2013 #44

I did read the article--the child was placed in a position where her mother FORCED her to have MADem Apr 2013 #48

I didn't say she's innocent thesquanderer Apr 2013 #50

She was penetrated against her will and she did not have a choice in the matter. MADem Apr 2013 #52

It usually involves invasion by a body part. Deep13 Apr 2013 #60

or an inanimate object penetrating the victim's body SemperEadem Apr 2013 #63

In this state a finger can be rape. I'd have to reread the... Deep13 Apr 2013 #68

Sexual act against her will? Aquavit Apr 2013 #29

"sexual act against her will" is not "rape" thesquanderer Apr 2013 #32

She was forced to physically penetrate herself vaginally Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #30

That may be rape in your book thesquanderer Apr 2013 #35

Here is how the federal statute reads: Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #47

Bingo! That's the standard according to the UCMJ, too. MADem Apr 2013 #49

But the mother did not perform the penetration! thesquanderer Apr 2013 #51

Yes, the mother DID perform the penetration. She forced the act with coercion. MADem Apr 2013 #53

I didn't say the mother was innocent! thesquanderer Apr 2013 #54

She provided the impetus (coercion) that resulted in penetration. MADem Apr 2013 #57

If I compel you Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #65

Really!!!! She should get 20 years for that sick shit. WhoWoodaKnew Apr 2013 #13

What the hell is wrong with people? This is beyond sick! Initech Apr 2013 #2

Some women are baby besotted to the point of insanity Warpy Apr 2013 #4

I am curious as to who and how FarPoint Apr 2013 #9

It says in the article they did it themselves. tammywammy Apr 2013 #10

Oh how sad..... FarPoint Apr 2013 #17

Turkey baster, most likely Warpy Apr 2013 #11

Story says the sperm was bought on the Internet. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2013 #12

Yeah? How was it kept alive for transport? Warpy Apr 2013 #37

In a thermos with priority shipping and instructions for thawing. /nt TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #41

Frozen, packed in dry ice. Sperm is shipped all the time. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2013 #46

Animal semen is a big business AngryAmish Apr 2013 #66

Most likely she was abused as a child. Gregorian Apr 2013 #21

This is truly another... SummerSnow Apr 2013 #3

A long time ago, more than 15 years, Bette Noir Apr 2013 #5

Yes why wasn't she in prison? And that's exactly what that was Triana Apr 2013 #16

Sicko! SoapBox Apr 2013 #6

Many of the inhabitants of this spinning dirt ball are fucken insane, literally. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #8

This is obviously extreme but in my time on earth, the stories I've read and heard, I'm... Poll_Blind Apr 2013 #14

These woman are rapists. Triana Apr 2013 #15

So rapist = mental health problems that obviously goes along with "danger to society"? Neoma Apr 2013 #28

+1,000 freshwest Apr 2013 #42

That story caused me to feel nausea. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #18

5 years for Child Cruelty? lib87 Apr 2013 #19

It's Great Britain--they often think too well of people, I'm afraid. MADem Apr 2013 #27

Holly shit I feel so sorry for that girl, my God. Sand Wind Apr 2013 #20

Ghastly. How dare she?! tblue Apr 2013 #22

This makes the Jerry Springer show look like church. L0oniX Apr 2013 #23

Sad, tragic TNNurse Apr 2013 #33

Five years. secondvariety Apr 2013 #34

Ridiculous sentence. This young girl should never have contact with this horrible person mbperrin Apr 2013 #36

I'll call this rape lobodons Apr 2013 #38

The mother probably got such a short sentence rocktivity Apr 2013 #39

All I Can Say- ruffburr Apr 2013 #40

Legally this may not be classified as rape. But there is a sick incestuous quality to this. Locut0s Apr 2013 #43

I think the coercion part of it is what makes it just despicable davidpdx Apr 2013 #45

I don't think the issue here is rape....it is forced pregnancy. Proletariatprincess Apr 2013 #55

sick motherfucker should rot in hell arely staircase Apr 2013 #56

I think it's interesting in these situations to ponder questions like ... brett_jv Apr 2013 #58

well, here is my two cents DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #61

In this state it's "gross sexual imposition" and probably "sexual assault" ... Deep13 Apr 2013 #59

In this case its self invasion dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #64

blaming the victim. "duress"? WTF. how low can you go? CreekDog Apr 2013 #67

You are blaming the victim : not me dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #70

"self invasion" were your words CreekDog Apr 2013 #71

Well, it's by force, so if the statute includes non-living objects... Deep13 Apr 2013 #69

nauseating. truthisfreedom Apr 2013 #62