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Ken Burch

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73. It goes without saying that Capriles is to Maduro's right, and that the poor would lose

Sun May 5, 2013, 06:44 PM

May 2013

if Capriles came in and did his "pro-business" policies. "Pro-business" is always code for "fuck the workers and the poor".

And I haven't seen any evidence that Maduro is an antisemite, or that he'd oppose LGBT legislation(the reason Venezuela doesn't have more of that was pressure from the Catholic hierarchy...but, for some reason, I don't hear you calling THEM out about that).

We tried it your way in Nicaragua in 1990. The results were a tragedy and the poor and the workers pretty much lost everything. Not only did the non-Sandinista governments have no social achievements, they had no achievements of any kind.

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Venezuela's Maduro blasts 'devil' Obama [View all] Freddie Stubbs May 2013 OP

And people wonder why I can't stand this jerk? Archae May 2013 #1

Yeah he's a jerk, but ... Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #2

He won the election. Maybe. Archae May 2013 #4

Look, I know all about the cultists we have on this site. Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #6

excellant post. Proletariatprincess May 2013 #9

It's not like Obama is going to send in the Marines--I mean, come on--let's not get overblown about MADem May 2013 #12

But since Maduro isn't a right-winger, he gets a pass. Archae May 2013 #15

I just can't worry about 'em overmuch. MADem May 2013 #16

Those are the biggest problems. Archae May 2013 #19

Corruption is rampant. I think it'll get worse, too. MADem May 2013 #21

And don't forget all the dope that funnels through there. Archae May 2013 #22

Drugs and kidnapping are a noticeable aspect of the GDP, indeed. nt MADem May 2013 #23

Yeah I know, I could and have written many of the same things to the cultists. Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #33

Oh, come on. MADem May 2013 #34

And? I'm not sure I understand what you're responding to. n/t Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #35

I'm responding to your gripe that Obama hasn't "recognized" Maduro's election. MADem May 2013 #36

It's a legit gripe Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #40

You don't know everything that Obama knows...so it just may NOT be a 'legit' gripe. MADem May 2013 #42

We weren't there, so we have to take the word of the country's authorities, Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #43

Well, the fact that the SA nations agreed to endorse the result "for stability of the region" MADem May 2013 #70

No, this is the key passage: Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #77

Funny, since Venezuela doesn't produce any cocaine. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #63

Why would I "go on about Colombia" in a thread about VENEZUELA? MADem May 2013 #64

Fortunately, nothing like that goes on in the rest of Latin America. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #55

That was a rude and silly comment. Wank fest? Really? MADem May 2013 #97

He's a right winger to me. joshcryer May 2013 #25

It goes without saying that Capriles is to Maduro's right, and that the poor would lose Ken Burch May 2013 #73

No, just the CIA. tblue May 2013 #48

The CIA from 10 years ago. Archae May 2013 #54

That's OLD NEWS. 11 years old, in fact. MADem May 2013 #58

Remember Honduras. Obama is not above repeating THAT. Ken Burch May 2013 #69

Not gonna happen. nt MADem May 2013 #71

Because...? Ken Burch May 2013 #74

Look, I am not going to have two subthreads going on with the same person -- stick to the MADem May 2013 #76

Do you have any idea how imperialist that post sounded? Ken Burch May 2013 #72

Why do you keep responding to the same post? Again--Not. Gonna. Happen. MADem May 2013 #75

It can get kind of confusing... arikara May 2013 #61

Me, I'm talking about US and generally non-Venezuelan folks Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #62

The election was better monitored than any US election ever. /nt Ash_F May 2013 #7

Preposterous. The Carter Center says "acompa�ante" is symbolic. joshcryer May 2013 #26

+1 nt MADem May 2013 #37

You are crying about voting machines that actually print out ballots? Ash_F May 2013 #41

VVAT is the most common voting machine in the US. joshcryer May 2013 #65

That's what I heard too. Beacool May 2013 #57

What, you know him? zeemike May 2013 #3

I believe that Hugo was poisoned..... Proletariatprincess May 2013 #10

Do you also believe in the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny? Archae May 2013 #11

speaking of evidence reorg May 2013 #18

Like I said... Archae May 2013 #20

yes, it's pretty much impossible reorg May 2013 #24

I notice that not one of the Hugo-Nots responded to your comment. leveymg May 2013 #52

Well, when the Christian Science Monitor, which reports VERY carefully, calls MADem May 2013 #67

Wow, you read an opinion piece in the Christian Science Monitor reorg May 2013 #78

Others in this thread have spoken to the "observer" issue, so I won't repeat that. MADem May 2013 #86

Your trust in this "other" one who has spoken is adorable reorg May 2013 #88

More than Venezuelan "Analysis" certainly. MADem May 2013 #90

the "devils" Maduro mentioned reorg May 2013 #91

It's anywhere from a half a percent to a percent and a half, depending MADem May 2013 #92

it depends on whether you use actual sources reorg May 2013 #95

We know what Uncle Joe said about "official sources." MADem May 2013 #96

your misinformed ramblings are quite depressing reorg May 2013 #98

Way to have a substantive issue-based discussion--toss a few lame insults. MADem May 2013 #99

No, he can't, because THERE IS NO EVIDENCE. bitchkitty May 2013 #27

Wouldn't broken fingerprint machines be cause for concern? joshcryer May 2013 #29

You said yourself they are not needed at all reorg May 2013 #49

No, it's not an "additional measure." joshcryer May 2013 #66

BS, of course it is reorg May 2013 #80

They don't have actas in polling stations representing 700k votes. joshcryer May 2013 #81

different issue reorg May 2013 #82

Regardless to check for ballot stuffing requires an audit. joshcryer May 2013 #83

how about producing some evidence reorg May 2013 #84

One needn't provide evidence to make the request. joshcryer May 2013 #85

Belief isnt proof though. cstanleytech May 2013 #14

And you have facts to support this claim or are Skidmore May 2013 #32

I believe he had pancreatic cancer, a condition which kills many. Akoto May 2013 #45

Maybe you don't know the history tblue May 2013 #50

I have to wonder who the Tea Party will side with. Gore1FL May 2013 #5

Neither - most of them don't know what or where Venezuela is. n/t bitchkitty May 2013 #28

Isn't near Benghazi?!?!?!? Gore1FL May 2013 #38

Nah, it's a town in Cuba. ;) n/t bitchkitty May 2013 #79

Sounds like a fool to me! hrmjustin May 2013 #8

President Obama John2 May 2013 #13

If Obamas policies were truly to far right we would have long ago invaded Venezuela. cstanleytech May 2013 #17

and how did you John2 May 2013 #51

I always find it odd how people joke about the President playing "ten-dimensional chess" ... Akoto May 2013 #46

Oh my comments John2 May 2013 #59

I doubt Obama will lose any sleep over that DFW May 2013 #30

Yep 47of74 May 2013 #31

I didn't follow the election in Venezuela davidthegnome May 2013 #39

On the devil comment Ash_F May 2013 #44

I had no idea. davidthegnome May 2013 #47

The far-left is just as nasty as the far-right Ter May 2013 #53

Just what are John2 May 2013 #56

The far-left is not even close... davidthegnome May 2013 #60

Well, Maduro does have his reasons. The U.S. is trying to destabilize Venezuela Ken Burch May 2013 #68

Taking a page out of the Chavez playbook, I see. Arkana May 2013 #87

That is so racist. Pterodactyl May 2013 #89

Venezuelan presidents have a way with words Enrique May 2013 #93

President Nicolas Maduro acts like hes afraid to have his election checked for fraud. Sunlei May 2013 #94