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Ash_F

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71. No, there is strong support for the old VE royalty from our own power circles.

Reply to treestar (Reply #56)

Mon May 6, 2013, 10:05 AM

May 2013

Our government needs to start acting on the behalf of real people, both at home and abroad.

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Sad to see timdog44 May 2013 #1

Wow iandhr May 2013 #2

We shall see. timdog44 May 2013 #3

the last elections in "Palestine" were in 2006 Mosby May 2013 #75

Brace yourself... Archae May 2013 #78

I think the last timdog44 May 2013 #81

those were local elections, and only took place in the west bank. Mosby May 2013 #82

Wishful thinking(on Iran) Ash_F May 2013 #84

"That has got to be the most moronic thing I have ever herd on this site." Speaking of herds... dballance May 2013 #4

Thank you timdog44 May 2013 #5

Anytime. Looks like iandhr is getting an ear full. dballance May 2013 #30

So we interfered in Guatemala in the 1950s treestar May 2013 #56

Other than the failed coup attempt in 2002? Warren Stupidity May 2013 #61

Is that a stretch of some kind? treestar May 2013 #101

you are being obtuse. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #102

No, there is strong support for the old VE royalty from our own power circles. Ash_F May 2013 #71

I just got up this morning timdog44 May 2013 #65

I don't think his opinion is moronic. John2 May 2013 #6

And if we are to talk about stolen elections timdog44 May 2013 #7

And lets not forget Haiti.... n/t AnotherDreamWeaver May 2013 #32

I know, right? Sooooooooooooooooooo moronic. bitchkitty May 2013 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr May 2013 #12

yep heaven05 May 2013 #22

Instead of insulting the poster, which is never endearing, might I suggest Veilex May 2013 #27

Yep, our government interferes with their elections, terrorizes their leaders, helps Doctor_J May 2013 #14

To say that Iran(leadership) Is a democratically elected country leave me perplexe, Sand Wind May 2013 #16

I don't think anybody John2 May 2013 #28

I'm not an american. I'm a muslim living in a North American country. Sand Wind May 2013 #31

They used to have one, until Kermit Roosevelt and the CIA overthrew Mossadegh. Fuddnik May 2013 #37

They used to have one, and then the CIA, and the MI5 and the DGSE... Sand Wind May 2013 #38

You've made a number of unsubstantiated implications... do you have any Veilex May 2013 #24

Do you have timdog44 May 2013 #46

No pot stirring here good sir... Veilex May 2013 #77

Thanks for your timdog44 May 2013 #79

Forgiven, forgotten, may the good conversation continue! :) Veilex May 2013 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Veilex May 2013 #25

I hope you are being sarcastic. Archae May 2013 #26

Although timdog44 May 2013 #40

A theocracy is fascism. Archae May 2013 #42

I think timdog44 May 2013 #44

Please.... ReRe May 2013 #67

I hope you are OK..... ReRe May 2013 #59

Right-wingers not only have rewritten the Bible & history, they've rewritten the dictionary! n/t Judi Lynn May 2013 #60

Seriously... ReRe May 2013 #68

They stole the election in IRAN. hrmjustin May 2013 #29

Watching the Hugo cultists defend jailing a filmaker is always fun. nt msanthrope May 2013 #8

Ding Ding Ding iandhr May 2013 #9

FYI bitchkitty May 2013 #11

And the evidence that this filmaker is a covert operative? nt msanthrope May 2013 #13

Well, the guy was arrested. harmonicon May 2013 #15

There are tens of thousands in Venezuelan jails without trial. joshcryer May 2013 #19

I would think timdog44 May 2013 #45

Yes, the US prison culture is abhorrent. joshcryer May 2013 #51

prisoners in the US have been convicted though. Most prisoners in Ven Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #69

Documentation for "tens of thousands in jail without trials"? Warren Stupidity May 2013 #62

Totally bewildering, isn't it? Apparently some think whatever they say will stick here. Judi Lynn May 2013 #63

Why don't you retract that since the facts were provided? joshcryer May 2013 #86

70% of Ven prisoners awaiting trial Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #70

Still waiting for documentation that tens of thousands are being held without trial. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #72

47,000 prisoners in Ven, 70% in pretrial detention would be approximately 33,000 Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #73

They love to pat themselves on the back for their own ignorance. joshcryer May 2013 #87

Ah, but Warren! bitchkitty May 2013 #76

Bacchus4.0 provided the link. joshcryer May 2013 #85

Why aren't you all up in arms about this? bitchkitty May 2013 #90

21.5 is smaller than 66.2? joshcryer May 2013 #92

A question to answer a question. bitchkitty May 2013 #93

So, no criticism of Venezuela's deplorable prisons? joshcryer May 2013 #95

I think they suck. bitchkitty May 2013 #97

They've gotten far worse since Chavez. joshcryer May 2013 #104

thanks, your link verifies what I've posted Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #98

Wrong link, but now I can't find the one I meant to post. bitchkitty May 2013 #100

Pre-trial detention rate US: 157; Venezuela: 99 reorg May 2013 #89

66.2% vs 21.5% Venezuela is #4 with pretrial detention. joshcryer May 2013 #91

And the price of tea in China? reorg May 2013 #94

If Venezuela's crime solve rated was higher they'd be similar to the US. joshcryer May 2013 #96

and if my aunt had wheels ... reorg May 2013 #106

In the US they are in jails, not prisons. joshcryer May 2013 #109

yes, the US is world master reorg May 2013 #110

Your last paragraph is precious. joshcryer May 2013 #105

you don't seem to understand it reorg May 2013 #107

Yes, you neglect comparing it to the prison population. joshcryer May 2013 #108

can you count? reorg May 2013 #111

and remember, in the US the arrested are not held with the general prison population Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #99

Excellent point there. joshcryer May 2013 #103

The evidence is his filming people talking smack basically. joshcryer May 2013 #18

Well known ploy. I am surprised others don't realize this but not surprised that several act byeya May 2013 #66

So who is a Hugo cultist now? John2 May 2013 #17

It was fun when they were arguing against counting votes. joshcryer May 2013 #23

and it's even more fun reorg May 2013 #43

Oh, so you find chavista hypocrisy fun? joshcryer May 2013 #50

It's just predictable. Cha May 2013 #34

And being jailed for "destabilizing the country." treestar May 2013 #57

K&R n/t DeSwiss May 2013 #20

I guess that guy arrested in N Korea is 100% guilty too. Archae May 2013 #21

well said n/t Psephos May 2013 #33

Wasn't the movie Argo based on that premise? Proletariatprincess May 2013 #35

These people also claimed that the US somehow infected Chavez with cancer. Nye Bevan May 2013 #36

Why is that so hard to consider? Proletariatprincess May 2013 #39

I could say that Chavez was the guy who rigged the 2000 election. Archae May 2013 #41

Sorry about your Dad. timdog44 May 2013 #48

I could say oil money was behind all of it... Archae May 2013 #49

The Chavez was poisoned proof would be a breakthrough in cancer knowledge. joshcryer May 2013 #52

Not true bitchkitty May 2013 #80

Sorry for the late reply. timdog44 May 2013 #64

Not to that extent treestar May 2013 #58

Has somebody been watching Argo? Ash_F May 2013 #47

That's my take too. joshcryer May 2013 #53

Yup. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #54

+1 Zorra May 2013 #83

Venezuela rebuffs Obama, repeats case against U.S. 'spy' dipsydoodle May 2013 #55

The internet gives these two bit film makers unwarranted power to cause trouble. marshall May 2013 #74