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Veilex

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77. No pot stirring here good sir...

Mon May 6, 2013, 12:03 PM

May 2013

At the time of my reply, there was little in the way of supporting information for your comment. Obviously since others have chimed in, there is quite a bit. For my part, I am making a meager attempt at bringing conversation back to the substantiated and civilized. In spite of the wealth of knowledge held by individuals here on DU, Trolls, conservatives and those who simply don't know all the details (Because you can never know everything), often are looking for more information (Except maybe the trolls).
So long story short... you mistake my intentions, which is easily done when you only have text to go by.

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Sad to see timdog44 May 2013 #1

Wow iandhr May 2013 #2

We shall see. timdog44 May 2013 #3

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Brace yourself... Archae May 2013 #78

I think the last timdog44 May 2013 #81

those were local elections, and only took place in the west bank. Mosby May 2013 #82

Wishful thinking(on Iran) Ash_F May 2013 #84

"That has got to be the most moronic thing I have ever herd on this site." Speaking of herds... dballance May 2013 #4

Thank you timdog44 May 2013 #5

Anytime. Looks like iandhr is getting an ear full. dballance May 2013 #30

So we interfered in Guatemala in the 1950s treestar May 2013 #56

Other than the failed coup attempt in 2002? Warren Stupidity May 2013 #61

Is that a stretch of some kind? treestar May 2013 #101

you are being obtuse. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #102

No, there is strong support for the old VE royalty from our own power circles. Ash_F May 2013 #71

I just got up this morning timdog44 May 2013 #65

I don't think his opinion is moronic. John2 May 2013 #6

And if we are to talk about stolen elections timdog44 May 2013 #7

And lets not forget Haiti.... n/t AnotherDreamWeaver May 2013 #32

I know, right? Sooooooooooooooooooo moronic. bitchkitty May 2013 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr May 2013 #12

yep heaven05 May 2013 #22

Instead of insulting the poster, which is never endearing, might I suggest Veilex May 2013 #27

Yep, our government interferes with their elections, terrorizes their leaders, helps Doctor_J May 2013 #14

To say that Iran(leadership) Is a democratically elected country leave me perplexe, Sand Wind May 2013 #16

I don't think anybody John2 May 2013 #28

I'm not an american. I'm a muslim living in a North American country. Sand Wind May 2013 #31

They used to have one, until Kermit Roosevelt and the CIA overthrew Mossadegh. Fuddnik May 2013 #37

They used to have one, and then the CIA, and the MI5 and the DGSE... Sand Wind May 2013 #38

You've made a number of unsubstantiated implications... do you have any Veilex May 2013 #24

Do you have timdog44 May 2013 #46

No pot stirring here good sir... Veilex May 2013 #77

Thanks for your timdog44 May 2013 #79

Forgiven, forgotten, may the good conversation continue! :) Veilex May 2013 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Veilex May 2013 #25

I hope you are being sarcastic. Archae May 2013 #26

Although timdog44 May 2013 #40

A theocracy is fascism. Archae May 2013 #42

I think timdog44 May 2013 #44

Please.... ReRe May 2013 #67

I hope you are OK..... ReRe May 2013 #59

Right-wingers not only have rewritten the Bible & history, they've rewritten the dictionary! n/t Judi Lynn May 2013 #60

Seriously... ReRe May 2013 #68

They stole the election in IRAN. hrmjustin May 2013 #29

Watching the Hugo cultists defend jailing a filmaker is always fun. nt msanthrope May 2013 #8

Ding Ding Ding iandhr May 2013 #9

FYI bitchkitty May 2013 #11

And the evidence that this filmaker is a covert operative? nt msanthrope May 2013 #13

Well, the guy was arrested. harmonicon May 2013 #15

There are tens of thousands in Venezuelan jails without trial. joshcryer May 2013 #19

I would think timdog44 May 2013 #45

Yes, the US prison culture is abhorrent. joshcryer May 2013 #51

prisoners in the US have been convicted though. Most prisoners in Ven Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #69

Documentation for "tens of thousands in jail without trials"? Warren Stupidity May 2013 #62

Totally bewildering, isn't it? Apparently some think whatever they say will stick here. Judi Lynn May 2013 #63

Why don't you retract that since the facts were provided? joshcryer May 2013 #86

70% of Ven prisoners awaiting trial Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #70

Still waiting for documentation that tens of thousands are being held without trial. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #72

47,000 prisoners in Ven, 70% in pretrial detention would be approximately 33,000 Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #73

They love to pat themselves on the back for their own ignorance. joshcryer May 2013 #87

Ah, but Warren! bitchkitty May 2013 #76

Bacchus4.0 provided the link. joshcryer May 2013 #85

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21.5 is smaller than 66.2? joshcryer May 2013 #92

A question to answer a question. bitchkitty May 2013 #93

So, no criticism of Venezuela's deplorable prisons? joshcryer May 2013 #95

I think they suck. bitchkitty May 2013 #97

They've gotten far worse since Chavez. joshcryer May 2013 #104

thanks, your link verifies what I've posted Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #98

Wrong link, but now I can't find the one I meant to post. bitchkitty May 2013 #100

Pre-trial detention rate US: 157; Venezuela: 99 reorg May 2013 #89

66.2% vs 21.5% Venezuela is #4 with pretrial detention. joshcryer May 2013 #91

And the price of tea in China? reorg May 2013 #94

If Venezuela's crime solve rated was higher they'd be similar to the US. joshcryer May 2013 #96

and if my aunt had wheels ... reorg May 2013 #106

In the US they are in jails, not prisons. joshcryer May 2013 #109

yes, the US is world master reorg May 2013 #110

Your last paragraph is precious. joshcryer May 2013 #105

you don't seem to understand it reorg May 2013 #107

Yes, you neglect comparing it to the prison population. joshcryer May 2013 #108

can you count? reorg May 2013 #111

and remember, in the US the arrested are not held with the general prison population Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #99

Excellent point there. joshcryer May 2013 #103

The evidence is his filming people talking smack basically. joshcryer May 2013 #18

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So who is a Hugo cultist now? John2 May 2013 #17

It was fun when they were arguing against counting votes. joshcryer May 2013 #23

and it's even more fun reorg May 2013 #43

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And being jailed for "destabilizing the country." treestar May 2013 #57

K&R n/t DeSwiss May 2013 #20

I guess that guy arrested in N Korea is 100% guilty too. Archae May 2013 #21

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Yup. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #54

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