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91. the "devils" Maduro mentioned

Mon May 6, 2013, 10:12 PM

May 2013

the CIA, the Pentagon and the State Department, want their dupes to believe that there is some similarity to the 2000 presidential election.

What you call "razor-thin" is 12 times the margin Kennedy had in the presidential election 1960:

112,000, in a country with six times (at the time) the population of Venezuela (compared with Maduro's 225,000).

It's about 280 times the margin Bush had in Florida (537 in a state with roughly 2/3 the population of Venezuela).

1.5 percent is not "razor-thin". The countries which accepted the result simply accept reality. The lone outlier appears to be the US.

Whether Obama HAS the right to do whatever he pleases is not the issue here, the question is if he IS right to follow the advice of the above mentioned devils and continue with interfering in Venezuela's internal affairs.

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Venezuela's Maduro blasts 'devil' Obama [View all] Freddie Stubbs May 2013 OP

And people wonder why I can't stand this jerk? Archae May 2013 #1

Yeah he's a jerk, but ... Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #2

He won the election. Maybe. Archae May 2013 #4

Look, I know all about the cultists we have on this site. Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #6

excellant post. Proletariatprincess May 2013 #9

It's not like Obama is going to send in the Marines--I mean, come on--let's not get overblown about MADem May 2013 #12

But since Maduro isn't a right-winger, he gets a pass. Archae May 2013 #15

I just can't worry about 'em overmuch. MADem May 2013 #16

Those are the biggest problems. Archae May 2013 #19

Corruption is rampant. I think it'll get worse, too. MADem May 2013 #21

And don't forget all the dope that funnels through there. Archae May 2013 #22

Drugs and kidnapping are a noticeable aspect of the GDP, indeed. nt MADem May 2013 #23

Yeah I know, I could and have written many of the same things to the cultists. Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #33

Oh, come on. MADem May 2013 #34

And? I'm not sure I understand what you're responding to. n/t Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #35

I'm responding to your gripe that Obama hasn't "recognized" Maduro's election. MADem May 2013 #36

It's a legit gripe Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #40

You don't know everything that Obama knows...so it just may NOT be a 'legit' gripe. MADem May 2013 #42

We weren't there, so we have to take the word of the country's authorities, Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #43

Well, the fact that the SA nations agreed to endorse the result "for stability of the region" MADem May 2013 #70

No, this is the key passage: Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #77

Funny, since Venezuela doesn't produce any cocaine. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #63

Why would I "go on about Colombia" in a thread about VENEZUELA? MADem May 2013 #64

Fortunately, nothing like that goes on in the rest of Latin America. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #55

That was a rude and silly comment. Wank fest? Really? MADem May 2013 #97

He's a right winger to me. joshcryer May 2013 #25

It goes without saying that Capriles is to Maduro's right, and that the poor would lose Ken Burch May 2013 #73

No, just the CIA. tblue May 2013 #48

The CIA from 10 years ago. Archae May 2013 #54

That's OLD NEWS. 11 years old, in fact. MADem May 2013 #58

Remember Honduras. Obama is not above repeating THAT. Ken Burch May 2013 #69

Not gonna happen. nt MADem May 2013 #71

Because...? Ken Burch May 2013 #74

Look, I am not going to have two subthreads going on with the same person -- stick to the MADem May 2013 #76

Do you have any idea how imperialist that post sounded? Ken Burch May 2013 #72

Why do you keep responding to the same post? Again--Not. Gonna. Happen. MADem May 2013 #75

It can get kind of confusing... arikara May 2013 #61

Me, I'm talking about US and generally non-Venezuelan folks Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #62

The election was better monitored than any US election ever. /nt Ash_F May 2013 #7

Preposterous. The Carter Center says "acompa�ante" is symbolic. joshcryer May 2013 #26

+1 nt MADem May 2013 #37

You are crying about voting machines that actually print out ballots? Ash_F May 2013 #41

VVAT is the most common voting machine in the US. joshcryer May 2013 #65

That's what I heard too. Beacool May 2013 #57

What, you know him? zeemike May 2013 #3

I believe that Hugo was poisoned..... Proletariatprincess May 2013 #10

Do you also believe in the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny? Archae May 2013 #11

speaking of evidence reorg May 2013 #18

Like I said... Archae May 2013 #20

yes, it's pretty much impossible reorg May 2013 #24

I notice that not one of the Hugo-Nots responded to your comment. leveymg May 2013 #52

Well, when the Christian Science Monitor, which reports VERY carefully, calls MADem May 2013 #67

Wow, you read an opinion piece in the Christian Science Monitor reorg May 2013 #78

Others in this thread have spoken to the "observer" issue, so I won't repeat that. MADem May 2013 #86

Your trust in this "other" one who has spoken is adorable reorg May 2013 #88

More than Venezuelan "Analysis" certainly. MADem May 2013 #90

the "devils" Maduro mentioned reorg May 2013 #91

It's anywhere from a half a percent to a percent and a half, depending MADem May 2013 #92

it depends on whether you use actual sources reorg May 2013 #95

We know what Uncle Joe said about "official sources." MADem May 2013 #96

your misinformed ramblings are quite depressing reorg May 2013 #98

Way to have a substantive issue-based discussion--toss a few lame insults. MADem May 2013 #99

No, he can't, because THERE IS NO EVIDENCE. bitchkitty May 2013 #27

Wouldn't broken fingerprint machines be cause for concern? joshcryer May 2013 #29

You said yourself they are not needed at all reorg May 2013 #49

No, it's not an "additional measure." joshcryer May 2013 #66

BS, of course it is reorg May 2013 #80

They don't have actas in polling stations representing 700k votes. joshcryer May 2013 #81

different issue reorg May 2013 #82

Regardless to check for ballot stuffing requires an audit. joshcryer May 2013 #83

how about producing some evidence reorg May 2013 #84

One needn't provide evidence to make the request. joshcryer May 2013 #85

Belief isnt proof though. cstanleytech May 2013 #14

And you have facts to support this claim or are Skidmore May 2013 #32

I believe he had pancreatic cancer, a condition which kills many. Akoto May 2013 #45

Maybe you don't know the history tblue May 2013 #50

I have to wonder who the Tea Party will side with. Gore1FL May 2013 #5

Neither - most of them don't know what or where Venezuela is. n/t bitchkitty May 2013 #28

Isn't near Benghazi?!?!?!? Gore1FL May 2013 #38

Nah, it's a town in Cuba. ;) n/t bitchkitty May 2013 #79

Sounds like a fool to me! hrmjustin May 2013 #8

President Obama John2 May 2013 #13

If Obamas policies were truly to far right we would have long ago invaded Venezuela. cstanleytech May 2013 #17

and how did you John2 May 2013 #51

I always find it odd how people joke about the President playing "ten-dimensional chess" ... Akoto May 2013 #46

Oh my comments John2 May 2013 #59

I doubt Obama will lose any sleep over that DFW May 2013 #30

Yep 47of74 May 2013 #31

I didn't follow the election in Venezuela davidthegnome May 2013 #39

On the devil comment Ash_F May 2013 #44

I had no idea. davidthegnome May 2013 #47

The far-left is just as nasty as the far-right Ter May 2013 #53

Just what are John2 May 2013 #56

The far-left is not even close... davidthegnome May 2013 #60

Well, Maduro does have his reasons. The U.S. is trying to destabilize Venezuela Ken Burch May 2013 #68

Taking a page out of the Chavez playbook, I see. Arkana May 2013 #87

That is so racist. Pterodactyl May 2013 #89

Venezuelan presidents have a way with words Enrique May 2013 #93

President Nicolas Maduro acts like hes afraid to have his election checked for fraud. Sunlei May 2013 #94