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27. In that case, all the other shit doesn't matter.

Fri May 10, 2013, 03:41 PM

May 2013

Because it's too freaking late to take care of this, even if we could figure out how.

87% of the world's energy comes from fossil fuels. The only marginally safe level of CO2 that anybody has named is 350 ppm, which we passed 25 years ago. We haven't even started to de-carbonize our electricity yet, let alone the 60% of our energy use that can't be substituted by windmills and wishful thinking. It takes Mother Nature 1,000 years to remove 1 ppm of CO2 from the air. We are now 50,000 years away from 350 ppm, and getting 3,000 years further away every year.

The train has left the station.

Clever, clever monkeys.

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Global carbon dioxide in atmosphere passes milestone level [View all] dipsydoodle May 2013 OP

YAYYYY! Javaman May 2013 #1

I wish I wasn't so pessimistic and cynical, but I don't think we will stop polluting soon Dustlawyer May 2013 #2

We aren't pro-active. We're reactive. progressoid May 2013 #5

Considering how many tipping points we've whistled on by, it's pretty much too late now anyway tavalon May 2013 #24

+1 GliderGuider May 2013 #35

+2 ellisonz May 2013 #54

carbon tax now. grahamhgreen May 2013 #3

I agree drynberg May 2013 #57

Carbon tax, use the funds to build solar, wind, and other renewables. No brainer. grahamhgreen May 2013 #58

It's too late now. Zoeisright May 2013 #4

Correct. closeupready May 2013 #8

Careful. That finger pointing can be misleading. Gregorian May 2013 #15

Unless you don't drive or use electricity... RiverNoord May 2013 #16

It is a societal problem, not just a Republican/Democrat issue. tinrobot May 2013 #32

No it isn't(yes, that is a fact, btw.)....just look at the science. n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #36

Might this be the real reason... ReRe May 2013 #6

Apparently it might have an indierect effect groundloop May 2013 #20

Thanks for pointing me to that... ReRe May 2013 #34

"unless emisssions are curbed" - SPOILER: they won't be. closeupready May 2013 #7

Says who? n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #37

Malcolm Light, Guy McPherson ... and me! GliderGuider May 2013 #40

Not all energy is created equal, though. n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #41

87% of the energy the world uses comes from fossil fuels. GliderGuider May 2013 #44

Simply not true(BTW, your conclusion is highly flawed as well.) AverageJoe90 May 2013 #47

You know I'm neither a denier nor a greenwasher. GliderGuider May 2013 #48

I didn't say you WERE a denier, of course..... AverageJoe90 May 2013 #51

Reducing carbon output a bit won't destroy the global economy. GliderGuider May 2013 #55

... n2doc May 2013 #9

Meanwhile congress has their hands full with the Benghazi Dinner Theater Blue_Tires May 2013 #13

And proposing bills that let congress decide what science research topics get funded and published n2doc May 2013 #17

Thanks to corporate hacks who will fuck over everyone for a profit. blackspade May 2013 #10

Here's the problem Seeking Serenity May 2013 #11

This is a problem that is going to solve itself. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #12

Except that CO2 emissions are only a part of the problem. It's much bigger than energy. Gregorian May 2013 #14

Everything is driven by population n2doc May 2013 #18

Yes, there is the problem of overpopulation, industry-driven closeupready May 2013 #19

I suspect that we (that is, humankind) Seeking Serenity May 2013 #21

In all likelihood, it'll be both. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #53

It's awfully sweet of them to continue to soften this dire situation with the word "unless" tavalon May 2013 #22

we had a shot.... Locrian May 2013 #23

The US will start getting serious about this Real Soon Now (tm). Warren Stupidity May 2013 #25

Only because the real serious problems have just started occurring a few years ago. n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #38

Global warming is a lot like pancreatic cancer NickB79 May 2013 #43

Not the best analogy, TBH. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #45

If we don't take care of this, all the other shit doesn't matter. NYC_SKP May 2013 #26

In that case, all the other shit doesn't matter. GliderGuider May 2013 #27

Interesting times ahead. NYC_SKP May 2013 #28

Concerted global action requires some degree of (the dreaded) global government. pampango May 2013 #29

And what happens to those nation-states Seeking Serenity May 2013 #30

That's what happen now. Nothing happens to them. In a true 'global government', a 'nation-state' pampango May 2013 #31

Hey, there's a question... ReRe May 2013 #33

Our top colleges will spare no expense turning out people to tackle this problem. raouldukelives May 2013 #39

If people realized what is truly required to stop this trainwreck NickB79 May 2013 #42

"then the shit will really hit the fan." I don't think so, Nick. n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #46

K&R pscot May 2013 #49

. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #50

think I'll dome my O2 producing trees and acres and charge admission someday. Sunlei May 2013 #52

I believe remaining above 400ppm will doom cities like New Orleans to the same fate as Atlantis. nt Selatius May 2013 #56