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In reply to the discussion: Medicine's big new battleground: does mental illness really exist? [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)46. And that is what the article is keying off of, really....DSM revisions.
Critics claim that the American Psychiatric Association's increasingly voluminous manual will see millions of people unnecessarily categorised as having psychiatric disorders. For example, shyness in children, temper tantrums and depression following the death of a loved one could become medical problems, treatable with drugs. So could internet addiction.
Inevitably such claims have given ammunition to psychiatry's critics, who believe that many of the conditions are simply inventions dreamed up for the benefit of pharmaceutical giants.
A disturbing picture emerges of mutual vested interests, of a psychiatric industry in cahoots with big pharma. As the writer, Jon Ronson, only half-joked in a recent TED talk: "Is it possible that the psychiatric profession has a strong desire to label things that are essential human behaviour as a disorder?"
Psychiatry's supporters retort that such suggestions are clumsy, misguided and unhelpful, and complain that the much-hyped publication of the manual has become an excuse to reheat tired arguments to attack their profession.
But even psychiatry's defenders acknowledge that the manual has its problems. Allen Frances, a professor of psychiatry and the chair of the DSM-4 committee, used his blog to attack the production of the new manual as "secretive, closed and sloppy", and claimed that it "includes new diagnoses and reductions in thresholds for old ones that expand the already stretched boundaries of psychiatry and threaten to turn diagnostic inflation into hyperinflation".
Inevitably such claims have given ammunition to psychiatry's critics, who believe that many of the conditions are simply inventions dreamed up for the benefit of pharmaceutical giants.
A disturbing picture emerges of mutual vested interests, of a psychiatric industry in cahoots with big pharma. As the writer, Jon Ronson, only half-joked in a recent TED talk: "Is it possible that the psychiatric profession has a strong desire to label things that are essential human behaviour as a disorder?"
Psychiatry's supporters retort that such suggestions are clumsy, misguided and unhelpful, and complain that the much-hyped publication of the manual has become an excuse to reheat tired arguments to attack their profession.
But even psychiatry's defenders acknowledge that the manual has its problems. Allen Frances, a professor of psychiatry and the chair of the DSM-4 committee, used his blog to attack the production of the new manual as "secretive, closed and sloppy", and claimed that it "includes new diagnoses and reductions in thresholds for old ones that expand the already stretched boundaries of psychiatry and threaten to turn diagnostic inflation into hyperinflation".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/may/12/medicine-dsm5-row-does-mental-illness-exist
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That was a very "negative" reply, Bernardo. Would you like to talk about it? nt
JustABozoOnThisBus
May 2013
#75
I have also made other posts in this thread. I don't think they deny all genetics. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2013
#102
You sound like you have never experienced mental illness. The problem with treating
Maraya1969
May 2013
#6
You sound like you have never experienced a good behavioral psychologist. The problem with treating
Junkpet
May 2013
#113
My opinion is driven in part by my years of experience with mental illness.
napoleon_in_rags
May 2013
#86
personally, I think one or two 8-9 hour blocks of pure sleep helps more than any treatment.
Sunlei
May 2013
#101
Then a Doctor should place the person in a sleep center for 10 hours under sleep meds.
Sunlei
May 2013
#116
But you see, you actually get at the very CORE of the problem with the status quo.
napoleon_in_rags
May 2013
#152
They jumped the shark when they said that grief lasting more than two weeks was a
Squinch
May 2013
#36
There is a video on Youtube called "The biology of belief" and the man speaking was a pioneer
Maraya1969
May 2013
#83
A very interesting area of research is EpiGenetics: study of factors outside of DNA affecting gene
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2013
#84
+1 agree it's positively fascinating -how emotions and behaviors/experiences alter your health. n/t
JudyM
May 2013
#161
at some level basically indistinguishable from mental illness. and the bird phobia? 3 generations
HiPointDem
May 2013
#149
i dispute it. we learn what the world is, how to interpret it, who we are and how to behave
HiPointDem
May 2013
#175
Yes/no. Alzheimer's has real physical elements but that doesn't contradict the call the doctors make
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2013
#18
'all' 'mental illnesses' have biological underpinnings in the same sense that life has biological
HiPointDem
May 2013
#150
I am torn about this. I have a cousin that I am very close to who has been diagnosed
AnnieK401
May 2013
#11
'There are genes that do NOT turn on, like depression' = and which genes are those, specifically?
HiPointDem
May 2013
#151
They would also like you to know that tin foil hats do indeed protect you from prying brain scans.
originalpckelly
May 2013
#17
Emphysema has a material cause. One questions 'mental illness' when most of the population
HiPointDem
May 2013
#74
they would affect both reproduction and survival. if you're hallucinating, collapsed into yourself
HiPointDem
May 2013
#148
'organic brain disorders' aren't genetic; they're disease states with physical causes and can
HiPointDem
May 2013
#153
except your 'brain part' does get ill, and causes identifiable manifestations. it just happens
HiPointDem
May 2013
#154
insulin actually is a cure of sorts for diabetes, if the diabetes is caused by the body's inability
HiPointDem
May 2013
#155
if it's genetic and organic, what are the biomarkers? answer: there aren't any.
HiPointDem
May 2013
#156
+1. " You are complex, and wonderful, and sometimes incomprehensible"
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2013
#53
How do these people explain Autism and other disorders that are not products of breakdown, then?
1monster
May 2013
#50
No. I attacked the post, not the person. And so what if they have been appointed to their position?
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2013
#59
'A post that calls something "bullshit" without any analysis or discussion is not worthy of respect'
postatomic
May 2013
#65
adolescence isn't a life change? the biological determinists would *love* to find some
HiPointDem
May 2013
#157
It's not the Religion, it is the surrounding tools that make religion effective.
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2013
#85
like pharma-therapy isn't fad-driven? i can write the same history about each generation of
HiPointDem
May 2013
#72
'You're cured! It's a miracle!' Meaning insurance won't cover it, so it doesn't exist. Only one
freshwest
May 2013
#115
If this makes mental health treatment less pharmacutical, less in a correctional facility ....
marble falls
May 2013
#78
You're right. Just because a set of behaviors can be described and labeled ...
marble falls
May 2013
#100
R.D. Laing made the same arguments decades ago - Good luck Scientologists with this new attempt
NoodleyAppendage
May 2013
#90