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31. What do you expect from vote in a state that rebelled against the United States? Take the vote in

Sat Dec 17, 2011, 01:07 PM

Dec 2011

Philadelphia, and Jefferson Davis is the war criminal.

In any case, the US people and historians consistently put Lincoln in the top three presidents who ever held the office in any century - so is path to greatness the willingness to do what it takes to save the nation regardless?

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BTW - you don't speculate that the reason Bill Clinton can add convicted war criminal to his resume is in any way tied to the triel being conducted by and in Serbia do you?

Give me pretty much any issue and I can produce a venue that will guarantee a particular result. They don't care much for Lincoln & Grant in the South - and go circulate a petition in Atlanta to rename a Park for Sherman.
Just make sure you are wearing body armor.

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Gaddafi death may be war crime, says International Criminal Court [View all] Judi Lynn Dec 2011 OP

Of course it was. So was the killing of a US citizen without a trial. mbperrin Dec 2011 #1

Perhaps you can cite where shooting a fleeing fugitive has ever been deemed a war crime in any 24601 Dec 2011 #8

Perhaps you'd like to show where the person mentioned was fleeing from anything. mbperrin Dec 2011 #19

As you know, I responded to the killing of the US citizen who was not named in the preceeding 24601 Dec 2011 #22

That is of course the citizen I was referring to. mbperrin Dec 2011 #23

I'm still waiting for a credible court cite that it's a war crime to shoot a fleeing 24601 Dec 2011 #25

The 6th Amendment will cover my argument nicely. When's the last time an FBI sniper team took out a mbperrin Dec 2011 #27

I can't believe you bought the line about it being paid for. Give us all a laugh and go ask the 24601 Dec 2011 #30

Bond redemptions are done daily, routinely. If Treasury bonds are worth nothing, mbperrin Dec 2011 #32

The killing of Al Awlaki was a crime. sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #33

Thanks for the great legal advice - should I ever rob a bank and end up with the FBI 24601 Dec 2011 #43

What were the charges against Al Awlaki? Was he even accused of robbing a bank? sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #44

Abe Lincoln killed hundreds of thousands of US citizens by his orders n/t Bacchus4.0 Dec 2011 #11

Yes, and I debated the topic "Was Abe Lincoln a War Criminal?" at the Lincoln Union debates mbperrin Dec 2011 #20

What do you expect from vote in a state that rebelled against the United States? Take the vote in 24601 Dec 2011 #31

I didn't ask any questions and would have voted "no he wasn't" at your grade school debate n/t Bacchus4.0 Dec 2011 #34

Sorry. It wasn't a grade school. It is a Tier I university, and the debate was held in a 2000 seat mbperrin Dec 2011 #35

fascinating, a one vote switch wins regardless of the overall tally Bacchus4.0 Dec 2011 #36

The switch measures persuasion. mbperrin Dec 2011 #37

not very persuasive n/t Bacchus4.0 Dec 2011 #41

Good luck getting that kid prosecuted. It's not like the "rebels" had Code of Conduct/Geneva MADem Dec 2011 #2

Yes, it most certainly was. In the same vein as Mussolini. joshcryer Dec 2011 #3

file under - when bad things happen to bad people. arely staircase Dec 2011 #17

Don't forget, they captured Saif, alive, and he will undergo a trial... joshcryer Dec 2011 #18

True, that. n/t Ghost Dog Dec 2011 #38

Didn't Bush declare assassinations of gov. leaders acceptable? Dover Dec 2011 #4

Crime or not, I'm glad Gaddafi is dead. center rising Dec 2011 #5

It won't be prosecuted. The ICC is just covering its @ss EFerrari Dec 2011 #29

Ok. ellisonz Dec 2011 #6

So many war crimes.... I wonder were this fits into the pile? midnight Dec 2011 #7

It was a Yankees fan who did it: Freddie Stubbs Dec 2011 #9

Tyrants reap what they sow. bluedigger Dec 2011 #10

What a bunch of wimps. Give me a break. closeupready Dec 2011 #12

May ? Looked like Summary Execution to me ... If that is not a war crime then what is ? n/t UndertheOcean Dec 2011 #13

We only recognize war crimes as actions we don't like gratuitous Dec 2011 #14

By that token, the whole revolution was a continuous war crime. closeupready Dec 2011 #16

Not really. The actual instigators of the Arab Spring were not violent EFerrari Dec 2011 #28

If you don't want a brutal, humiliating death....Don't be a despot. alphafemale Dec 2011 #15

Of course it was nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #21

Sob sob sob... CJvR Dec 2011 #24

The ICC better give the dead victims of Gaddafi the same respect by studying their deaths applegrove Dec 2011 #26

Yes. And maybe the US could join the ICC Ghost Dog Dec 2011 #39

America is really becoming good at War Crimes and Atrocities of late. NorthCarolina Dec 2011 #40

Big Words for the ICC. But they never back words with action. Countdown_3_2_1 Dec 2011 #42