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In reply to the discussion: Russ Feingold: Obama Super PAC Reversal Will Lead To 'A Legalized Abramoff System' [View all]FedUp_Queer
(975 posts)One more time.
Indefinite detention: his proposal in the speech at the national archives.
Detention of acquitted individuals: his proposal.
CDBG cuts: his proposal in his 2012 budget.
Killing American citizens without trial: his administration and on his order.
Regarding the NDAA: if he really had been against it, he would have vetoed it (as he said he would). The so-called "signing statement" is nothing but toilet paper masquerading as principle, or something. Given the fact that he ordered the killing of American citizens and that he proposed holding people acquitted, what benefit should I give him of any doubt that he wouldn't exercise the unconstitutional power to detain Americans picked up on American soil?
And, please, don't lecture me on condescension, etc. That horse left the barn a long time ago with you riding it.
As a matter of fact Obama and I don't agree. I don't agree with indefinitely detaining citizens without trial. I don't agree with killing citizens accused of crimes without trial. I don't agree with cutting vital programs for the poor...that work so well...like the community development block grant. I don't agree with detaining people acquitted. I don't agree with detaining people without charge.
Finally, as to my "aversion" to indefinite detention, I don't have an "aversion" to it. It's unconstitutional. We should never do it. He's for it. He said he was. He signed a law that had it in there.
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