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62. You're missing the point by a mile.

Wed May 15, 2013, 06:43 PM

May 2013

A&F is perfectly entitled to make and sell any size clothing they choose. As someone wrote upthread: it's not that they only sell those sizes. It is their stated reasons for doing so.

The issue is that the CEO made it clear their business model relies upon their being "losers" in the world who aren't worthy to shop, let alone work, in his stores. His business model thrives on exclusionary and dehumanizing attitudes.

Did he break any laws? No, of course not.

Was he being an ass? Yup.

Does he, and his company, deserve to be called out on it? You bet. He was stupid, and he deserves his lumps.

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Abercrombie & Fitch Faces Protests, Backlash for Not Selling Larger Sizes [View all] Jake Izzy May 2013 OP

A guy in L.A. has figured out a truly epic way to fight back KamaAina May 2013 #1

There is also this... KurtNYC May 2013 #47

Sweet! KamaAina May 2013 #48

Well, if they don't want to sell their clothing to 67% of U.S. consumers The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #2

They're not into volume selling dipsydoodle May 2013 #3

So should we also protest Elaine Bryant? Elmergantry May 2013 #4

Same as Big and Tall dipsydoodle May 2013 #6

baby gap does not sell large sizes either(at least i don't think so....0 dembotoz May 2013 #5

Uhh...shouldn't it be obvious about Baby Gap? alp227 May 2013 #55

It's idiotic to respond to A&F's antics. They did this for free airtime snagglepuss May 2013 #7

Exactly. Their stock has only gone up since the controversy erupted. nt SunSeeker May 2013 #12

I could care less that they are exclusionary in that respect. LiberalFighter May 2013 #8

I ask.. Half-Century Man May 2013 #9

they are pandering to fat-phobes Skittles May 2013 #10

I don't have a problem with this FreeState May 2013 #11

In other news, Gov. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI) KamaAina May 2013 #13

More manufactured outrage matt819 May 2013 #14

Seriously, you're comparing the A&F CEO's prejudiced statements mac56 May 2013 #18

No. matt819 May 2013 #20

Why can't a private business sell to whomever they want? cosmicone May 2013 #15

The can sell to whoever they want and people can complain Bonhomme Richard May 2013 #17

Where did all the Abercrombie and Fitch employees on this thread pop out of? mac56 May 2013 #19

I don't work for A&F cosmicone May 2013 #22

Nobody's "taking away their liberty." antigone382 May 2013 #25

Just sounds like cosmicone May 2013 #29

It's not just that they don't sell those sizes. It is their stated reasons for doing so. antigone382 May 2013 #49

Thank you for that explanation. babylonsister May 2013 #52

Thanks, YES. I'm all in favor of "mobs taking away a private corporation's liberty." TygrBright May 2013 #26

Non sequiteur cosmicone May 2013 #31

If you're going to claim it, learn to spell it. TygrBright May 2013 #38

You don't consider freedom to sell to whatever market cosmicone May 2013 #43

Got it in one. The freedom to "sell to whatever market" is not/should not be a protected liberty. TygrBright May 2013 #50

Again, you are creating a straw-man. cosmicone May 2013 #63

Wait, now you lost me. TygrBright May 2013 #69

ummmm cosmicone May 2013 #73

"ake away a private corporation's liberty"...err, did DU get hacked today? n/t alp227 May 2013 #56

I doubt anyone here is applying any more than common sense dipsydoodle May 2013 #27

are they public or private? Mosby May 2013 #28

Private as in "non-governmental" cosmicone May 2013 #32

What leads you to believe that is not the case? LanternWaste May 2013 #30

I may be dumber than a trout-brained idiot cosmicone May 2013 #40

Yes, you may be at that. mac56 May 2013 #44

Yeah, like the average sized guy running the "Fitch the Homeless" campaign... antigone382 May 2013 #54

They can. Dr. Strange May 2013 #33

^ THIS ^ mac56 May 2013 #41

Free publicity for their grotesque stores...eom Kolesar May 2013 #16

They stop at size 10 BainsBane May 2013 #21

Actually they dont - the sizing for men stops before average too FreeState May 2013 #23

Only women's clothes aren't measured by the waist BainsBane May 2013 #24

Abercrombie uses waist size for women on their sizing chart FreeState May 2013 #39

Yes, all charts do BainsBane May 2013 #61

39.7? Really? David__77 May 2013 #35

And if you look at the ideal they are inline FreeState May 2013 #42

Constantly amazed how few good plus-sized clothing stores there are NickB79 May 2013 #34

If companies like McDonald's, Yum Brands, etc can profit off loading everything alp227 May 2013 #57

My husband has some 20 year old A & F sweatshirts that are XXL Redford May 2013 #36

Not that I agree with that asshat at all, but.. sir pball May 2013 #37

Seriously?! mac56 May 2013 #45

Of course not. sir pball May 2013 #68

some of this has to do with vanity sizing - and some with ethnicicity Mopar151 May 2013 #64

Who gives a shit? jberryhill May 2013 #46

Ahh, the entitlement mentality strikes again. Megalo_Man May 2013 #51

What entitlement? The idea that fat people are actually human beings? alp227 May 2013 #58

"Fat people" as you called them aren't forced to buy clothes at A&F. Megalo_Man May 2013 #59

You're missing the point by a mile. mac56 May 2013 #62

Did he use the word "losers"? Or did he just describe his target market? (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #66

Neither. mac56 May 2013 #67

There are plenty of clothing stores out there. mac56 May 2013 #71

Do they sell clothes? tblue May 2013 #53

I remember when the only labels people wore upaloopa May 2013 #60

What a stupid campaign. Why can't companies choose which niche they wish to market to? Nye Bevan May 2013 #65

Um.. because the CEO of those stores mac56 May 2013 #70

I think their clothes are ugly Marrah_G May 2013 #72