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AtheistCrusader

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49. You don't understand because for a firearm to WORK is not your top priority.
Thu May 16, 2013, 01:13 AM
May 2013

I expect my firearms to work, first time, every time. Pull trigger, it goes bang. Period. If it doesn't my training can get it to go bang, in short order.

That is its primary purpose. That is WHY I OWN THEM.

You are advocating for a feature that can easily lead to a gun NOT going bang WHEN I INTEND FOR IT TO.

I get why. I do. And I don't blame you if I look at it from your vantage point. I really don't. Hopefully you can try seeing things from mine.

*I* do not leave my guns lying around. I secure them. I maintain a list of serial numbers that I am perfectly willing to share with the police should some ninja master thief somehow break into my home and abscond with the entire safes, or turn out to be some master safe cracker or some other unlikely scenario. I control access to my firearms like anyone should control access to a device that can produce deaths. I do not require this technology to keep my guns safe.

It represents, to me, an intentional introduction of a failure point in my firearms. The absolute last thing I could possibly want to do to my guns.

For me to be willing to intentionally adopt this technology, I need to see it attain favored status with police officers, AND the military. That ensures a standard of reliability that I have sought in my firearms from day one. My pistols are also used by police departments as service weapons. My shotguns and several rifles are also used by the military, and I selected them precisely for that reason. Pull trigger, goes bang, every time without fail.

If you're not willing to require police departments to deploy this today, then don't ask me to, because I'm not buying.

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Only if the requirement applies to the police. hack89 May 2013 #1
Obviously, you like rest of Gungeoneers, are against it. Hoyt May 2013 #2
I will use it if the police use it. hack89 May 2013 #3
I'm sure you view yourself part of law enforcement, most gunners do, but Hoyt May 2013 #4
No - I do not. hack89 May 2013 #5
That's not how it works If it's the law then suck it up..... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #14
So the police should have the only 100% reliable guns? hack89 May 2013 #16
I suppose it makes it less "potent" to some of the real fondlers.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #22
Not a big deal. It is pure fantasy on Tierney's part anyway. nt hack89 May 2013 #23
We can't even get trigger locks. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #44
Lots of manufacturers include them with new guns. New ones can be had for $5... friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #47
Trigger locks are required with the sale of all new guns in 9 states. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #53
This isn't about competing with the cops. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #62
If it can be retrofitted onto an existing gun, it can be removed from a stolen gun. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #9
Maybe so, but technology would improve quickly. More importantly those guns irresponsible gunners Hoyt May 2013 #10
Of course you can't understand- you're no different than the people that ban bongs... friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #18
And apparently you are no different that those who believe their guns don't stink. Hoyt May 2013 #20
"Restricting guns will help our society" Hadn't you noticed that they already are? friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #25
No, they help some folks get through the day, but society would be better off Hoyt May 2013 #28
"society would be better off with a lot less guns and gun cultists." friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #29
Culture warrior? Why do you guys always think in terms of war, guns, Hoyt May 2013 #31
Perhaps because *you* guys act like it's a War on Guns... friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #33
Quit acting dense, we are simply encouraging gun culture to act responsibly, Hoyt May 2013 #34
And gun culture is encouraging you to not embrace techno-hokum... friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #35
Well maybe gun manufacturers should stop production until technology is to your satisfaction. Hoyt May 2013 #37
Umm, don't you mean "to mine and the other gun Prohibitionists' satisfaction"? friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #38
No, I mean that until that technology is available, no more gun sales. Hoyt May 2013 #39
That's what we love about you, Hoyt... friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #40
I still have hopes for you guys. I'm sure you are lovely without your guns. Hoyt May 2013 #41
Undoubtedly the reign of tears will be over, and the slums will be a memory. friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #42
And what alternative is gun culture encouraging to promote gun safety/responsibility? primavera May 2013 #43
You seem not to have heard the people like me that advocated for these things here. friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #45
Maybe if you actually came into the gungeon and read a couple threads AtheistCrusader May 2013 #52
When the technology is actually available, we will probably buy it. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #51
You don't understand because for a firearm to WORK is not your top priority. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #49
I feel sad for you. Hoyt May 2013 #56
Your pity is misplaced. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #58
It would still reduce deaths from accidental shootings Marrah_G May 2013 #54
Yes, so would requiring all firearms be melted down into steel bricks. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #57
I'm not in favor of melting them down Marrah_G May 2013 #59
Someday this technology might work for that. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #60
I'm for it, but it doesn't exist. krispos42 May 2013 #21
Is that what your overlords at the NRA are saying? baldguy May 2013 #11
... Robb May 2013 #32
I don't think any reasonable person would disagree with that. Dr. Strange May 2013 #67
This sucks unless you can put at least two Mojorabbit May 2013 #6
What's funny is some people would find that romantic. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #15
It's the reason my AR has an adjustable stock. You know, one of the 'evil features'. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #55
Glad you explained that because we librulz iz skeered of gunz. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #63
So in a household with two parents and kids, each parent would Ted Brown May 2013 #7
He's full of crap, this tech doesn't work. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #8
Maybe the NRA can cough up some of thier extremist RW loony dough to help make it work. baldguy May 2013 #12
Or maybe Michael Bloomberg can cough up some of *his* billions to help make it work. friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #17
How does Michael Bloomberg come into this? baldguy May 2013 #27
You know what? You're right; Bloomie (like the NRA) is too smart to fall for vaporware. friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #30
Maybe. Why don't you ask them? AtheistCrusader May 2013 #50
Unlikely to even make it out of committee n/t Lurks Often May 2013 #13
True, but as we've seen it plays well with the dogmatic and willfully ignorant friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #19
A safe gun????? socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #24
"add about $20" They forgot a zero. And maybe a multiplier. Xithras May 2013 #26
So. You get stuck with a bunch of worthless guns that you never should have bought. Hoyt May 2013 #46
You're basically a poster child for the NRA, you know that right? AtheistCrusader May 2013 #61
Well, that and a bunch of right wing, bigoted crud that the base loves. Hoyt May 2013 #64
Does Congressman John Tierney ever offer any serious proposals? AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #36
Yes, but the republicans shoot him down because he's actually concerned about innocent lives. Hoyt May 2013 #48
It's more likely that his faith-based proposals interfere with theirs... friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #65
How does this work on a Black Powder Revolver? One_Life_To_Give May 2013 #66
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