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In reply to the discussion: Now Venezuela is running out of toilet paper [View all]Catherina
(35,568 posts)28. Same old script, from Allende to Aristide
Venezuela has a monthly consumption of 125 million rolls but now suddenly registers a mysterious "demand", out of nowhere, for an additional 40 million after the opposition media starts hyping a toilet paper shortage and everyone rushes out to "stock up" like the person in the picture in the Guardian article, and I'm sure that person wasn't the worst. Imagine what people with SUVs were carting off. It's reminiscent of the artificial bottled water and other shortages in Silicon Valley for the hyped up Y2K panic.
Like you said, the campaign continues.
This was written in response to President Nixon's feeling that the socialist government of President Salvador Allende in Chile wont last long.
Inside Chile
March 9, 1972
Nina Serrano, Haskell Wexler, Paul Jacobs, Saul Landau, and Elizabeth Farnsworth
In fact, Chiles food shortages and economic difficulties have been exploited by President Allendes opposition and misunderstood by the US press. In its first year of power, the Allende government has stimulated economic growth and begun to redistribute income through higher wages for workers, which in turn created a significant rise in the demand for consumer goods (including food) and services.
Moreover, Allende inherited Chiles food shortages, caused by an inefficient and unequitable agricultural system. Shortages of such items as meat, milk, and coffee became marked during the Christian Democratic Administration of Eduardo Frei (1964-70). By early 1970, months before Allendes victory, Chilean markets sold meat only a few days of each month, and the milk supply was sporadic. After Allendes inauguration (November, 1970), new obstacles were thrown in the way of food production: 1) indiscriminate slaughtering of herds and refusal to plant by landowners whose properties faced expropriation; 2) the earthquake and resulting dam age in July, 1971; and 3) the heavy snows, which killed crops and poultry.
The upper class (which these 5,000 women represented) never experienced hunger pangs, as Chiles poor have for decades. Only when meat became difficult to obtain under Allende did these privileged women march in the streets with empty pots which had previously been used only by their servants.
...
The recent disruptions demonstrate the rights determination to overthrow Allendes government and stop programs designed for the welfare of the Chilean poor. Herbert Kleins statement may express US policy rather than his feeling. As individuals who believe the US government should keep its hands off Chiles internal political affairs, we are alarmed and angered by Kleins statement, and we reaffirm our support for the Popular Unity government as it struggles to meet the needs of the Chilean people.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/1972/mar/09/inside-chile/?pagination=false
March 9, 1972
Nina Serrano, Haskell Wexler, Paul Jacobs, Saul Landau, and Elizabeth Farnsworth
In fact, Chiles food shortages and economic difficulties have been exploited by President Allendes opposition and misunderstood by the US press. In its first year of power, the Allende government has stimulated economic growth and begun to redistribute income through higher wages for workers, which in turn created a significant rise in the demand for consumer goods (including food) and services.
Moreover, Allende inherited Chiles food shortages, caused by an inefficient and unequitable agricultural system. Shortages of such items as meat, milk, and coffee became marked during the Christian Democratic Administration of Eduardo Frei (1964-70). By early 1970, months before Allendes victory, Chilean markets sold meat only a few days of each month, and the milk supply was sporadic. After Allendes inauguration (November, 1970), new obstacles were thrown in the way of food production: 1) indiscriminate slaughtering of herds and refusal to plant by landowners whose properties faced expropriation; 2) the earthquake and resulting dam age in July, 1971; and 3) the heavy snows, which killed crops and poultry.
The upper class (which these 5,000 women represented) never experienced hunger pangs, as Chiles poor have for decades. Only when meat became difficult to obtain under Allende did these privileged women march in the streets with empty pots which had previously been used only by their servants.
...
The recent disruptions demonstrate the rights determination to overthrow Allendes government and stop programs designed for the welfare of the Chilean poor. Herbert Kleins statement may express US policy rather than his feeling. As individuals who believe the US government should keep its hands off Chiles internal political affairs, we are alarmed and angered by Kleins statement, and we reaffirm our support for the Popular Unity government as it struggles to meet the needs of the Chilean people.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/1972/mar/09/inside-chile/?pagination=false
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It's amazing the kind of pressure the elite corporate capitalists can put on a country
fasttense
May 2013
#1
Yes, indeed. The government has touched bottom (pun intended) with this latest circumstance.
MADem
May 2013
#147
This is one of the more deluded or misguided posts I've read in a long time. nt
TeamPooka
May 2013
#165
IDK all that, but most paper goods manufacturing is owned by the Koch brothers, isn't it?
freshwest
May 2013
#84
Interesting analysis, except that Venezuela's economy has been growing at 5+%...
Peace Patriot
May 2013
#62
With rampant inflation, declining oil production and a skyrocketing murder rate.
hack89
May 2013
#117
Cost per barrel plummeted in the Bush Junta-induced worldwide depression,
Peace Patriot
Jun 2013
#174
First off: I'm for nationalizing things. Here, elsewhere. Example, our oil industry vs. Norway's.
freshwest
May 2013
#171
Toilet paper and paper products are the Koch brothers biggest selling products people!
xtraxritical
May 2013
#32
The Vzla. Govt. is the ONLY entity allowed to IMPORT Into Vzla. the dictator controls everything.
Bo
May 2013
#82
I'll have you know, the "Hawaiian" pizza (ham and pineapple) is more popular in California
KamaAina
May 2013
#111
yep, it always starts with limiting TP production and then the shit really hits the fan
Bacchus4.0
May 2013
#29
its quite embarrasing since Venezuela has been a fairly developed country for decades
Bacchus4.0
May 2013
#27
I predicted he wouldn't serve out his term. This election was too close. I agree that pure.....
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#77
I've never seen anyone say anything like that. You have quite an imagination, congrats. nt.
polly7
May 2013
#67
To many DUers, nationalizing major industries, declaring class warfare and destroying foreign trade
Nye Bevan
May 2013
#101
I know of at least one DUer who lives in an elite community in Latin America.
joshcryer
May 2013
#138
Well, I read the links and it doesn't look good for you so far. Looks like slander to me, unless you
idwiyo
May 2013
#156
I love Venezuela. Its a beautiful country with wonderful people. Too bad the government
Bacchus4.0
May 2013
#53
Yep, now its just 30-100 per weekend in Caracas and 20,000 + murders per year
Bacchus4.0
May 2013
#119
now the chavistas are trying to blame Capriles and former Colombian president Uribe
Bacchus4.0
May 2013
#126
The only thing more fragile than a box of puppies is the Venezuelan economy, apparently
Dreamer Tatum
May 2013
#127
you'd think with all those oil dollars coming in they'd be able to provide food and TP for
Bacchus4.0
May 2013
#68
Looks like the "Make the economy scream" people are back in the saddle in DC again.
leveymg
May 2013
#78
I would have thought this discussion would have completely unrolled by now
brooklynite
May 2013
#122
Capriles and Uribe sued over plot to wreck Venezuela's trade with Colombia
Peace Patriot
May 2013
#133
Blaming the opposition there is like blaming the republicans here for our do nothing congress
Exultant Democracy
May 2013
#134
Agree 100%. That's why I am so shocked that some DUers openly support Venezuelan opposition.
idwiyo
May 2013
#135
Yet you behave like it is. Otherwise you wouldn't be advocating for RW coalition who are hell bent
idwiyo
May 2013
#148
I'll answer your post later. Can you please provide a link that supports your claim that Cuban
idwiyo
May 2013
#154
Chicken, too. The economy is a mess and the ruling regime has only themselves to blame. nt
MADem
May 2013
#146
I thought Johnny Carson was dead, but his statement on the Toilet paper shortages I see lives on.
happyslug
May 2013
#158
How is 100k rolls of toilet paper going to help a country of 30 million? You ignored the math
msanthrope
May 2013
#164
No--it wouldn't be logical at all. Why? Becasue you've assumed a premise wholly without
msanthrope
May 2013
#169