Now Venezuela is running out of toilet paper

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84. IDK all that, but most paper goods manufacturing is owned by the Koch brothers, isn't it?

At least that's the way the lists of boycotting Koch products read.

And not provable, but American ex-pats to Venezuela I've talked to - carry on about Charles Koch like he's the Second Coming. They work in the oil business there and I consider them idiots.

We know oil producers were screwing people out of heating oil here years ago. But Chavez sold it to the Americans cheaper, gaining some fans in so doing, including RFK, Jr.

It could happen, but doesn't seem logical that they are having shortages from foreign sources. To improve the standards of living of a country requires a manufacturing base.

Venezuela has oil to pay for building facilities, and likely has trees, cows, corn fields. They've got people to work, so why would they need to import milk, butter, cornmeal or toilet paper when they can make it there?

The theory that Americans are harming the economy of Venezuela doesn't add up here. IIRC, we are their largest client for their oil, so it's not like we aren't getting along that well. Only the media says we hate each other.