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In reply to the discussion: Syria conflict: BBC shown 'signs of chemical attack' [View all]yurbud
(39,405 posts)Syria was on the list. And what is going on there is remarkably similar to how we destabilized the government of Afghanistan in the 80's, tried to do so in Nicaragua, and have recently done in Libya.
We are not going around starting humanitarian wars. We are looking after certain business and strategic interests that are intertwined, as is Russia, China, Iran, and any country big enough to have influence outside their own borders.
If you don't believe that, read Steven Kinzer of the New York Times' book OVERTHROW or John Perkins' CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HIT MAN and come back and try to say with a straight face we are doing any of this for altruistic reasons.
Russian geopolitical aims in the region are obvious: they don't want their Southern flank completely owned by the US and NATO, nor do they want their pipeline business to be taken over by the same.
Neither Russia or China would be wise to let us directly or indirectly control all the major oil reserve countries and pipeline routes in the region since that would give our oil companies the power to set the price at will and control our competitors access to oil.
Six weeks later, I saw the same officer, and asked: Why havent we attacked Iraq? Are we still going to attack Iraq?
He said: Sir, its worse than that. He said he pulled up a piece of paper off his desk he said: I just got this memo from the Secretary of Defenses office. It says were going to attack and destroy the governments in 7 countries in five years were going to start with Iraq, and then were going to move to Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran.
Clark said the aim of this plot was this: They wanted us to destabilize the Middle East, turn it upside down, make it under our control. He then recounted a conversation he had had ten years earlier with Paul Wolfowitz back in 1991 in which the then-number-3-Pentagon-official, after criticizing Bush 41 for not toppling Saddam, told Clark: But one thing we did learn [from the Persian Gulf War] is that we can use our military in the region in the Middle East and the Soviets wont stop us. And weve got about 5 or 10 years to clean up those old Soviet regimes Syria, Iran [sic], Iraq before the next great superpower comes on to challenge us. Clark said he was shocked by Wolfowitzs desires because, as Clark put it: the purpose of the military is to start wars and change governments? Its not to deter conflicts?
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/26/wes_clark_and_the_neocon_dream/