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Igel

(37,473 posts)
41. It's an okay place.
Sat May 18, 2013, 02:42 PM
May 2013

Michelle Obama's echoing recent peer-reviewed research.

Take the low-achieving barely middle-class kids in my neighborhood.

Each week, for 36 weeks of school, the black males and some Latino males spend 4 hours avoiding work in math or science or history class. Each week, for the 10 months when it's warm enough and dry enough, they spend 15-20 hours a week playing b-ball.

Most of the white and Asian, some Latino males are seldom seen during school nights.

Their school is failing, Title I, given extra money, and ranked unacceptable. It was built in 2007 and is a wonderful building. It's mostly black.

Imagine if they spent 15-20 hours a week doing math and science homework. This is a choice. Pure and simple.

But if they're like black males, aged 16-18, in the researcher's sample, their first career choice is NBA. Obviously, given the hundreds of thousands of black males, for it to be a realistic career choice you'd expect there to be at least 50k NBA openings a year, right? But it's not. Their second choice for career is a distant second.

Even most of the black males heading to college from the seniors in my classes are ridiculous and busily making bad choices. Many have basketball or football scholarships. And nearly every one has said they don't need to worry about academics. If they flunk out their freshman year it doesn't matter ... because they'll be picked up by the NBA or NFL. In fact, I've been told that taking time to do homework or study would reduce their chances of success.

They have learned bad information from somebody--not schools, not teachers. They've rejected accurate information when presented. Sometimes they've been trained to be hopeless and helpless. Or bitter and angry for things that happened before they were born or which were done to others. And they've made bad choices based on that bad information. Nobody's saying you have to go from deep poverty to CIT or MIT, then off to retire as a hedge-fund manager at age 35. For many kids, just making the choices necessary to keep from dropping out of high school and doing significantly better than their parents is enough.

I screwed up my career path. Several times. Each time I suffered as a victim of my own choices.

Sometimes the hardest victimizer to shake is yourself.

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We've made progress! kyeshinka May 2013 #1
I find this posting utterly racist and horribly offensive. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #2
Ooooh. Do Tell. CBGLuthier May 2013 #3
Mrs. Obama needs to justify, not I. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #5
??? heaven05 May 2013 #6
I can't begin to imagine how I'll explain to my kids Mrs. Obama assumes socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #8
seems to me Ms Obama's nice words were preaching to the choir azurnoir May 2013 #9
Fund schools and incentivize more advanced degrees. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #10
It's an okay place. Igel May 2013 #41
well thank you for an 'enlightening' dissertation concerning Black males azurnoir May 2013 #42
no heaven05 May 2013 #11
Wishful thinking. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #16
good heaven05 May 2013 #18
She isn't saying anything relevant. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #20
A woman who grew up in the south side of Chicago? Yeah, she's out of touch! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #13
She is, without a doubt. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #14
Her father put a sheet up in the living room BeyondGeography May 2013 #30
WHICH MAKES HER VILE RACIST HOLLYWOOD STEREOTYPES EVEN MORE VILE! socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #33
Feel free to disagree with what she said, but calling Michelle Obama ignorant BeyondGeography May 2013 #35
She is ignorant for perpetuating A RACIST HOLLYWOOD STEREOTYPE. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #37
Yeah...nice new pile of non-responsive bullshit there BeyondGeography May 2013 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #39
Instead of showing us you aren't able to have a discussion without being manipulative and using socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #40
Her husband was a Community Organizer in South Chicago Doctor_J May 2013 #45
??? heaven05 May 2013 #7
Eye of the beholder and all that... NaturalHigh May 2013 #12
Only when wealthy ignorant women voice racist stereotypical opinions socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #28
Either you're slinging crack rock or you got a wicked jump shot Capt. Obvious May 2013 #17
Not bigoted at all. simpify May 2013 #26
While she is chatting and dining with the rich disconnected. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #27
I'm not AA, but I thought that she meant well. Beacool May 2013 #31
"Her advice could apply to any young people." And that is how it should have been delivered! socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #34
Barack Obama has made similar statement. alp227 May 2013 #44
Well, considering those are pretty much the only ways to make any serious money, anymore ... Myrina May 2013 #4
I was talking to one of my daughter's former teachers at graduation. revolution breeze May 2013 #32
Interesting Quote from Michelle Pterodactyl May 2013 #15
Wise advice there (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #19
Never heard the term baller before daleo May 2013 #21
Yeah, Delphinus May 2013 #22
Me too; Urban Dictionary definition muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #25
That's a bad definition simpify May 2013 #29
I still want to be a rapper. jessie04 May 2013 #23
Mrs. Obama, another great 'uplifing' address at Bowie State University Sunlei May 2013 #24
I dunno. When I was a kid everyone on my little league team dreamt of playing Doctor_J May 2013 #36
She has guts for poking a hole in media stereotypes flamingdem May 2013 #43
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