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Ford_Prefect

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1. The children for whom the drugs work are far from zombies. Some do need other kinds of answers.
Mon May 20, 2013, 11:02 PM
May 2013

For some children, and adults, the drugs available help to a degree. Some people have found combinations of drugs are helpful. There are also many for whom this is not a useful answer, just as with other medications and other conditions.

Drugs alone are not and never were thought to be the only or best answer for everyone. Although there are those who administer schools and health systems who will insist that everyone is actually only entitled to one solution to any problem. These minds also seem to see children like cattle to be herded, rather than as people with ideas, imaginations, doubts and questions.

That said we are indeed a long way from the perfect balance between function and excess in medical application for ADHD. Each person is a unique and complex genetic assembly which makes the issues of accurate ADHD diagnosis and medication more complicated than for instance a general diagnosis of depression. ADHD is often found along with other conditions which can make a single drug or common therapy almost impossible. More often an integrated approach is called for. ADHD can also interfere with accurate perception and reaction to a degree that good common sense parenting and support alone cannot cope with.

ADHD is also too often seen as a personality disorder rather than a physical condition in which the nervous system is operating without all the needed chemistry. In some ways it is like having an allergy: when you can add the right chemistry the condition is manageable but never really gone, it can interfere with nearly everything you do in ways not easily managed, and you will have to cope with whatever it does to you all your life. It can also make you appear less functional and more vulnerable than you necessarily are.

When you are dealing with conditions which are essentially invisible like ADHD or Learning Disabilities behavioral clues which "seem" obvious to others are too frequently misleading as to cause. I was told more often that I care to remember to "straighten up", "deal with it", "act my age", and many other less salubrious instructions in an effort to get me to focus on my "problems". What is often not seen as the real difficulty is that you are overwhelmed by what is going on around you and cannot process it effectively or efficiently enough, and that you lack more than the proper attitude: you are actually missing some of the tools needed for the job. Sometimes it seems as if you are always one step behind the information or instructions so your actions and decisions are out of sync with events and emotions.

There is also the question of how many types of ADHD exist as a useful diagnosis. It used to be we were classified by whether we sat still or ran around the walls leaving dents.

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The children for whom the drugs work are far from zombies. Some do need other kinds of answers. Ford_Prefect May 2013 #1
The children who are drugged deserve attention, not institutional drugging. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #3
What discipline is your medical degree in? upaloopa May 2013 #5
Your logic assumes a complete lack of responsible medical judgement on the part of ALL those who Ford_Prefect May 2013 #6
It assumes nothing. ADHD pharmaceutical treatment is based on unfounded assumptions. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #8
Oh bullshit. Zoeisright May 2013 #7
of course you are right. There was a pyscho-pop anti-scientific fad Douglas Carpenter May 2013 #13
True, but not so with Adhd. I explain in my response above there is no socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #14
My family is full of ADHD marions ghost May 2013 #18
People who do not deal with ADHD don't really understand Drale May 2013 #26
poorer diet? "Children with Medicaid were more likely than uninsured children or privately insured Sunlei May 2013 #2
What you state is certainly part of the problem. Profits over people:( socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #12
Thom Hartmann's ideas may be useful: freshwest May 2013 #4
Hartmann marions ghost May 2013 #19
It's the goddamned poison food, water and plastic! DeSwiss May 2013 #9
Great point. Many of those "poisons" are toxic hormonal disruptors. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #10
Indeed.... DeSwiss May 2013 #11
good video thanks marions ghost May 2013 #27
Welcome to DU gopiscrap May 2013 #30
Sugar n/t cprise May 2013 #15
Agreed, along with HFCS. DeSwiss May 2013 #22
You can say they were "created by science" cprise May 2013 #23
As long as capitalism owns science, its' our worse enemy. n/t DeSwiss May 2013 #24
Even academics?? cprise May 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Jake Izzy May 2013 #16
the study looked only at "white" and only males KurtNYC May 2013 #17
The study seems to reflect historical bias that ADHD is not often found in Girls or women. Ford_Prefect May 2013 #20
ADHD marions ghost May 2013 #28
That's because early on when these adults were kids ADHD was thought to be most prevalent WilmywoodNCparalegal May 2013 #21
Piss poor research technique in any case to apply such obvious and dated bias in defining the Ford_Prefect May 2013 #31
Interesting because my mom and dad were crack skinny and so was I but: gopiscrap May 2013 #29
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