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Ford_Prefect

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6. Your logic assumes a complete lack of responsible medical judgement on the part of ALL those who
Tue May 21, 2013, 12:10 AM
May 2013

practice and prescribe for adults and children diagnosed with ADHD.

I must ask you sir, do you yourself treat or interact with any of these children? Have you read any of the NIMH studies of this condition either in children or adults? Are you familiar at all with the recent brain scan studies of brain structure differences and the effects of various drugs on their function?

Some of your argument resembles that from a few tracts the Church of Scientology likes to promote. If they do not indeed influence your reference reading I would like to suggest you read the latest from some well regarded experts on the subject of ADHD. Their information might enlighten your views of CNS function and integration. A User's Guide to the Brain by John J. Ratey, MD, would be a good place to start.

ADHD is real. There has been and remains significant debate about treatment and the dimensions of the condition, as has been the case for some time. That there is need for such treatment, and sympathetic support for those with the condition is not in doubt. Yes, the children you propose to protect and nurture need meaningful and thorough-going help, not a drug fix to relieve guilt-ridden adults. The point you miss is that some of the drugs do work effectively and reasonably well for some of the children, and by the way many adults with the condition.

We are indeed a long way from targeted ADHD medicines and the side effects for some of the drugs in use are certainly to be considered when treatment and application are decided. I don't love the extra sweating my meds induce but I sure get a lot more done when I can use them. Sometimes that is enough, sometimes it isn't. I'd rather have the choice than allow someone as ignorant as you appear to be slam the door on effective treatment options.

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The children for whom the drugs work are far from zombies. Some do need other kinds of answers. Ford_Prefect May 2013 #1
The children who are drugged deserve attention, not institutional drugging. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #3
What discipline is your medical degree in? upaloopa May 2013 #5
Your logic assumes a complete lack of responsible medical judgement on the part of ALL those who Ford_Prefect May 2013 #6
It assumes nothing. ADHD pharmaceutical treatment is based on unfounded assumptions. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #8
Oh bullshit. Zoeisright May 2013 #7
of course you are right. There was a pyscho-pop anti-scientific fad Douglas Carpenter May 2013 #13
True, but not so with Adhd. I explain in my response above there is no socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #14
My family is full of ADHD marions ghost May 2013 #18
People who do not deal with ADHD don't really understand Drale May 2013 #26
poorer diet? "Children with Medicaid were more likely than uninsured children or privately insured Sunlei May 2013 #2
What you state is certainly part of the problem. Profits over people:( socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #12
Thom Hartmann's ideas may be useful: freshwest May 2013 #4
Hartmann marions ghost May 2013 #19
It's the goddamned poison food, water and plastic! DeSwiss May 2013 #9
Great point. Many of those "poisons" are toxic hormonal disruptors. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #10
Indeed.... DeSwiss May 2013 #11
good video thanks marions ghost May 2013 #27
Welcome to DU gopiscrap May 2013 #30
Sugar n/t cprise May 2013 #15
Agreed, along with HFCS. DeSwiss May 2013 #22
You can say they were "created by science" cprise May 2013 #23
As long as capitalism owns science, its' our worse enemy. n/t DeSwiss May 2013 #24
Even academics?? cprise May 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Jake Izzy May 2013 #16
the study looked only at "white" and only males KurtNYC May 2013 #17
The study seems to reflect historical bias that ADHD is not often found in Girls or women. Ford_Prefect May 2013 #20
ADHD marions ghost May 2013 #28
That's because early on when these adults were kids ADHD was thought to be most prevalent WilmywoodNCparalegal May 2013 #21
Piss poor research technique in any case to apply such obvious and dated bias in defining the Ford_Prefect May 2013 #31
Interesting because my mom and dad were crack skinny and so was I but: gopiscrap May 2013 #29
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