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Sen. Patrick Leahy Withdraws Amendment To Include Gay Couples In Immigration Reform Bill [View all] brooklynite May 2013 OP

It is of course no skin off your flint, is it? Nope. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #1

Unfortunately many in our own party dont see us as a civil rights movement FreeState May 2013 #3

They don't know what they sound like. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #6

I am Jewish - and I would still want them to pass what can be passed karynnj Jun 2013 #61

I care about accomplishing what's possible... brooklynite May 2013 #4

Does it make you feel better to speak dismissivley of a loss that is not your own Bluenorthwest May 2013 #5

What in my comments was "dismissive"? brooklynite May 2013 #7

The dismissive part is 'would that make you feel better'. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #8

So, you get Democrats to vote for the Same Sex provision... brooklynite May 2013 #10

It is better than surrendering without trying. dbackjon May 2013 #28

The question is do you feel you have accomplished anything by discrimination? Bluenorthwest May 2013 #38

No, the question is whether the bill, as passed, accomplishes anything karynnj Jun 2013 #62

i am sure some of the folks who will be flippant about this are some of the same ones who howl about boilerbabe May 2013 #21

Well said! dbackjon May 2013 #27

Reread his/her comment karynnj Jun 2013 #59

So "liberty and justice for all" no longer applies? LonePirate May 2013 #2

Did it used to? n/t hughee99 May 2013 #20

well bless old Pat for trying. He really fought hard for this. cali May 2013 #9

That's our strong Dem leadership. What did he get in return? Doctor_J May 2013 #11

...and an Immigration Bill brooklynite May 2013 #12

did you read the article? dems were set to vote against it. cali May 2013 #13

like I said, strong leadership Doctor_J May 2013 #14

what does that actually say? cali May 2013 #37

It means Obama voted againt immigration justice for LGBT people when he Bluenorthwest May 2013 #39

link to that vote please karynnj Jun 2013 #63

here's what teh gays think about this latest cave-in Doctor_J May 2013 #50

so, nothing new. mitchtv May 2013 #15

Sold out by the Vichy Dems again! Kelvin Mace May 2013 #16

Provide a list of the progressive Dems who could get elected to the Senate in Red States... brooklynite May 2013 #17

Well, let's see, we never run any Kelvin Mace May 2013 #44

Better add Jeff Merkely to that list. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #45

Yeah, I missed Merkely Kelvin Mace May 2013 #46

Sherrod Brown dsc May 2013 #47

What good does it do to elect Republican Dems in the Red States? Doctor_J May 2013 #54

To be honest, there's nothing I care less about right now than the immigration reform bill. Pragdem May 2013 #18

So, we can only deal with one issue at a time? brooklynite May 2013 #19

I'm not even sure what the issue is. rucky May 2013 #34

No, not even that, you centrists have to chop off protections for some to get Bluenorthwest May 2013 #40

I see no reason this is not the case already treestar May 2013 #22

The Democrats against justice are from the center, from the 'moderate middle' Bluenorthwest May 2013 #43

I believe they are Bluedogs Iliyah May 2013 #23

Once again the message is "give us your money, but your rights? When the time is right!" Behind the Aegis May 2013 #24

Yup -- but we can't make waves dbackjon May 2013 #26

Are we allowed on the bus yet, or will be sucking fumes again? Behind the Aegis May 2013 #29

Abbreviated version of the List is upthread dbackjon May 2013 #30

Glad you are ok with my friends GETTING FUCKED OVER BY DEMOCRATS dbackjon May 2013 #25

oh wait, President Obama just did johnnypneumatic May 2013 #32

Here is Obama on the greatness of Tom Coburn, from last month Bluenorthwest May 2013 #42

and before a cup of hemlock Doctor_J May 2013 #56

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #36

Presidential signing statements have had significant impact on laws over the last twenty plus years Rowdyboy May 2013 #31

Not taken well ... boy, you weren't kidding ... brett_jv May 2013 #33

So which other minorities would you be willing to exclude from reforms? Bluenorthwest May 2013 #41

I get it, your points are made throughout the thread, which I read all of ... brett_jv May 2013 #49

To be effectively patronizing it is necessary to understand the subject at hand. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #51

There are still many immigrants who would benefit from this bill treestar May 2013 #53

Caving in to the fascists is always logically sound Doctor_J May 2013 #55

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #35

Coward. closeupready May 2013 #48

And the USA continues to be amazingly backwards Spider Jerusalem May 2013 #52

Reviewed this thread as we wait for immigration bill to pass or fail... Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #57

Corporate Dems Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #58

Now, LGBT, get out there and vote Dem next year! Doctor_J Jun 2013 #60

Yes, please vote Dem next year. great white snark Jun 2013 #65

If immigration policy needs comprehensive reform, then it ought to be reformed petronius Jun 2013 #64