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Bluenorthwest

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40. No, not even that, you centrists have to chop off protections for some to get

Wed May 22, 2013, 07:45 AM

May 2013

this bill done, so you can not even manage immigration without doing it in many parts. Hard to think folks who can not cope with one unified bill could cope with multiple tasks of any kind.
Not sure what the gains are in this bill that are so important to our citizens that we have to shit on some to fix the problems others are having. If my people can do without the reforms, I assume others could do without them as well.
They don't give a shit what the bill contains, they just want to pass something called 'immigration reform' to add it to the list of rhetorical accomplishments.

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Sen. Patrick Leahy Withdraws Amendment To Include Gay Couples In Immigration Reform Bill [View all] brooklynite May 2013 OP

It is of course no skin off your flint, is it? Nope. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #1

Unfortunately many in our own party dont see us as a civil rights movement FreeState May 2013 #3

They don't know what they sound like. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #6

I am Jewish - and I would still want them to pass what can be passed karynnj Jun 2013 #61

I care about accomplishing what's possible... brooklynite May 2013 #4

Does it make you feel better to speak dismissivley of a loss that is not your own Bluenorthwest May 2013 #5

What in my comments was "dismissive"? brooklynite May 2013 #7

The dismissive part is 'would that make you feel better'. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #8

So, you get Democrats to vote for the Same Sex provision... brooklynite May 2013 #10

It is better than surrendering without trying. dbackjon May 2013 #28

The question is do you feel you have accomplished anything by discrimination? Bluenorthwest May 2013 #38

No, the question is whether the bill, as passed, accomplishes anything karynnj Jun 2013 #62

i am sure some of the folks who will be flippant about this are some of the same ones who howl about boilerbabe May 2013 #21

Well said! dbackjon May 2013 #27

Reread his/her comment karynnj Jun 2013 #59

So "liberty and justice for all" no longer applies? LonePirate May 2013 #2

Did it used to? n/t hughee99 May 2013 #20

well bless old Pat for trying. He really fought hard for this. cali May 2013 #9

That's our strong Dem leadership. What did he get in return? Doctor_J May 2013 #11

...and an Immigration Bill brooklynite May 2013 #12

did you read the article? dems were set to vote against it. cali May 2013 #13

like I said, strong leadership Doctor_J May 2013 #14

what does that actually say? cali May 2013 #37

It means Obama voted againt immigration justice for LGBT people when he Bluenorthwest May 2013 #39

link to that vote please karynnj Jun 2013 #63

here's what teh gays think about this latest cave-in Doctor_J May 2013 #50

so, nothing new. mitchtv May 2013 #15

Sold out by the Vichy Dems again! Kelvin Mace May 2013 #16

Provide a list of the progressive Dems who could get elected to the Senate in Red States... brooklynite May 2013 #17

Well, let's see, we never run any Kelvin Mace May 2013 #44

Better add Jeff Merkely to that list. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #45

Yeah, I missed Merkely Kelvin Mace May 2013 #46

Sherrod Brown dsc May 2013 #47

What good does it do to elect Republican Dems in the Red States? Doctor_J May 2013 #54

To be honest, there's nothing I care less about right now than the immigration reform bill. Pragdem May 2013 #18

So, we can only deal with one issue at a time? brooklynite May 2013 #19

I'm not even sure what the issue is. rucky May 2013 #34

No, not even that, you centrists have to chop off protections for some to get Bluenorthwest May 2013 #40

I see no reason this is not the case already treestar May 2013 #22

The Democrats against justice are from the center, from the 'moderate middle' Bluenorthwest May 2013 #43

I believe they are Bluedogs Iliyah May 2013 #23

Once again the message is "give us your money, but your rights? When the time is right!" Behind the Aegis May 2013 #24

Yup -- but we can't make waves dbackjon May 2013 #26

Are we allowed on the bus yet, or will be sucking fumes again? Behind the Aegis May 2013 #29

Abbreviated version of the List is upthread dbackjon May 2013 #30

Glad you are ok with my friends GETTING FUCKED OVER BY DEMOCRATS dbackjon May 2013 #25

oh wait, President Obama just did johnnypneumatic May 2013 #32

Here is Obama on the greatness of Tom Coburn, from last month Bluenorthwest May 2013 #42

and before a cup of hemlock Doctor_J May 2013 #56

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #36

Presidential signing statements have had significant impact on laws over the last twenty plus years Rowdyboy May 2013 #31

Not taken well ... boy, you weren't kidding ... brett_jv May 2013 #33

So which other minorities would you be willing to exclude from reforms? Bluenorthwest May 2013 #41

I get it, your points are made throughout the thread, which I read all of ... brett_jv May 2013 #49

To be effectively patronizing it is necessary to understand the subject at hand. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #51

There are still many immigrants who would benefit from this bill treestar May 2013 #53

Caving in to the fascists is always logically sound Doctor_J May 2013 #55

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #35

Coward. closeupready May 2013 #48

And the USA continues to be amazingly backwards Spider Jerusalem May 2013 #52

Reviewed this thread as we wait for immigration bill to pass or fail... Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #57

Corporate Dems Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #58

Now, LGBT, get out there and vote Dem next year! Doctor_J Jun 2013 #60

Yes, please vote Dem next year. great white snark Jun 2013 #65

If immigration policy needs comprehensive reform, then it ought to be reformed petronius Jun 2013 #64