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Snake Alchemist

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Fri Feb 10, 2012, 12:09 PM Feb 2012

What does new glacier data mean for the climate debate? [View all]

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The rivers and glaciers that descend from the steep slopes of the Himalaya mountain range help to provide water for the 1.4 billion people that live in its shadow. Any interruption in this flow could have severe implications in a region blighted by political tension and poverty.

A paper published in the science journal Nature this week which revealed that there has been no appreciable loss of ice from the region's glaciers over the past decade has been met with relief and surprise. The findings have also been greeted with delight by climate sceptics who have long viewed claims made about the melting of Himalayan glaciers as unfounded and alarmist.

The study's authors used data obtained between 2003 and 2010 from the twin Grace satellites to detect and record any tiny, regional shifts in the Earth's gravitational field. A decline in ice mass resulted in a reduction of this pull as they orbited the planet.

The study was the first ever attempt made using satellite data to create a detailed, region-by-region picture of the planet's 20 largest glaciers and ice caps (GICs . Previously, GICs have largely been monitored on the ground with the data being extrapolated from just a handful of sites to provide a conclusion about the state of a wider region's ice mass. Of the world's 160,000 glaciers, only 120 had ever been directly measured before this new study – and only 37 had an archive of measurements stretching back more than 30 years. The physical terrain and travel restrictions in the Himalayas have made it notoriously hard for scientists to monitor ice levels in the area meaning most measurements have been obtained from lower altitude glaciers which are far more vulnerable to climate change.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/feb/10/glacier-data-climate-change-debate

Maybe some of the measures we've put in place are having some effect?

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Nothing, zippo. bemildred Feb 2012 #1
Maybe the lower altitude glaciers are more suseptible to the warming because of shraby Feb 2012 #2
Definitely a possibility. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #3
The Higher Glaciers are Most Likely Colder On the Road Feb 2012 #4
That and due to temps rising, it puts more moisture in the air Javaman Feb 2012 #11
And the rising moisture re-freezes, so the key is how HIGH they are relative to significant water patrice Feb 2012 #19
Aren't the effects of Climate change felt more strongly at or near the poles? stufl Feb 2012 #5
They need to have a boo at the glaciers in Alberta TrogL Feb 2012 #6
This is like opening your freezer SaintPete Feb 2012 #7
It means nothing to people who have adopted climate change as their religion. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2012 #8
thanks for the rw meme Warren Stupidity Feb 2012 #12
What you say may - indeed - be true, but the question was not so narrow.... xocet Feb 2012 #15
False Equivalency.What isn't known in one case is likely different, or not significant, in the other patrice Feb 2012 #16
What an odd statement. drm604 Feb 2012 #21
Nothing. The Himalayas are just one teensy spot on the planet. kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #9
the snows of kilimanjaro are almost gone...permanent snow and glaciers in wiggs Feb 2012 #10
Means you shouldn't over simplify the thing that we are talking about. Just like ice-storms in patrice Feb 2012 #13
There is no 'debate'. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #14
Other reports differ JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2012 #17
Well duh! Guess what - space is still cold too! Taverner Feb 2012 #18
That is a speculative article, not LBN , dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #20
Locking Hutzpa Feb 2012 #22
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