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Wed May 22, 2013, 10:38 PM

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In a First, U.S. Acknowledges Drones Killing 4 Americans [View all] Stuart G May 2013 OP

One of the biggest and most brutal terrorists there was. graham4anything May 2013 #1

Who? Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #2

triple a graham4anything May 2013 #3

There is no evidence that al-Awlaki was a "terrorist" Maedhros May 2013 #8

There is plenty of evidence out there geek tragedy May 2013 #13

That is called "hearsay" Kelvin Mace May 2013 #19

Court testimony is not hearsay by definition. geek tragedy May 2013 #25

Court testimony is not admissable in another case unless Kelvin Mace May 2013 #28

Are you alleging that the underwear bomber geek tragedy May 2013 #32

They were NEVER placed in the stand Kelvin Mace May 2013 #44

You're confused on both the definition of hearsay geek tragedy May 2013 #51

Again, bin Laden was afforded more due process than AAA Kelvin Mace May 2013 #53

You're free to stick your head in the sand geek tragedy May 2013 #54

Once againing Kelvin Mace May 2013 #68

Arrest wasn't an option, as he was a fugitive from the Yemeni authorities geek tragedy May 2013 #75

No, not by definition MNBrewer May 2013 #29

If someone testifies that "AAA told me to geek tragedy May 2013 #34

If there was evidence of a crime Maedhros May 2013 #43

Excellent point Kelvin Mace May 2013 #47

The al-Qaeda franchise in the Yemen area has been engaged geek tragedy May 2013 #48

Yeah, you just walk through the AQ-held area of Yemen, which is engaged in a civil war... Recursion May 2013 #72

It's called a state of war telclaven May 2013 #80

No, you're right, Nazis weren't arrested. Heywood J May 2013 #82

And this has what to do with anything? telclaven May 2013 #86

Not to be mean here but court testimony can indeed be hearsay. Most of the time, hearsay 24601 May 2013 #60

The first sentence says "A statement made out of court..." Recursion May 2013 #73

Did you follow the link and read the federal rules of evidence? One of the exceptions is to allow 24601 May 2013 #85

That's probably why the government didn't say he was a target. hughee99 May 2013 #59

Really? another_liberal May 2013 #4

Absolutely. Thanks for saying it. n/t Judi Lynn May 2013 #5

Thank you! AndyA May 2013 #6

But that doesnt answer the real question of cstanleytech May 2013 #7

No one suspected of a crime should be killed outright, unless he is violently resisting. another_liberal May 2013 #12

Oh I agree and cstanleytech May 2013 #20

One could argue these individuals were violently resisting.. DCBob May 2013 #22

So are you OK Kelvin Mace May 2013 #31

who said these others were innocent? DCBob May 2013 #33

That is your standard of evidence for summary execution? Kelvin Mace May 2013 #37

summary?? I think they had a great deal of evidence on this guy. DCBob May 2013 #38

What is this evidence you speak of? Kelvin Mace May 2013 #41

Well said! another_liberal May 2013 #61

Thank you. woo me with science May 2013 #95

Yeah. Guilty until proven innocent. That's the ticket. DirkGently May 2013 #55

It was the car we were attacking. another_liberal May 2013 #62

Suspicion of "planning and preparing" is more like it. another_liberal May 2013 #63

What do we do? bvar22 May 2013 #14

Exceptionally well stated. Kelvin Mace May 2013 #40

Thank you. nt woo me with science May 2013 #94

Comparing Obama to Stalin is ridiculous. 7962 May 2013 #98

Claiming the authority to execute anyone, anywhere, at any time... bvar22 May 2013 #105

All the "standards" in the world mean nothing, applied in secret. (nt) DirkGently May 2013 #100

What do we do NOW Kelvin Mace May 2013 #23

Exceptionally Well Stated! bvar22 May 2013 #66

Would you approve a drone strike on them, then? nt Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #9

I don't like drone attacks on anyone when we are not at war. another_liberal May 2013 #10

If I was president? cstanleytech May 2013 #16

Nope, because I believe in due process and the rule of law. Kelvin Mace May 2013 #24

Except the problem here is the discussion is how to deal with those who cstanleytech May 2013 #30

Follow the RULE OF LAW Kelvin Mace May 2013 #35

Yes, in hindsight alot of things could and should have been handled differently cstanleytech May 2013 #46

No, I answered the question. Kelvin Mace May 2013 #50

Rule of law also states that the police can use deadly force. cstanleytech May 2013 #57

Hardly the situation his own observation Kelvin Mace May 2013 #65

Oh, I see what your problem is. bvar22 May 2013 #69

Oh Dear God, not this again! telclaven May 2013 #81

Drone those miserable pieces of feces and a bunch of banker terrorists as well. JEB May 2013 #26

wondering why it took this long 1983law May 2013 #77

Murder is murder. another_liberal May 2013 #79

Summary? 1983law May 2013 #89

If you, as an American, travel overseas . . . another_liberal May 2013 #91

I gather 1983law May 2013 #92

Abortion? another_liberal May 2013 #103

Choice only matters when it suits 1983law May 2013 #110

That is meaningless . . . another_liberal May 2013 #112

Really? Kelvin Mace May 2013 #11

killing an enemy is not an execution, it's killing an enemy nt geek tragedy May 2013 #15

He was an American citizen Kelvin Mace May 2013 #17

armed conflict and criminal justice are two entirely different geek tragedy May 2013 #21

If the guy is shooting at Americans Kelvin Mace May 2013 #27

The US was there to kill bin Laden, let's not kid ourselves. geek tragedy May 2013 #56

Again, based upon what evidence? Kelvin Mace May 2013 #67

And this is a time of war Recursion May 2013 #74

The AUMF did NOT Declare a State of War. bvar22 May 2013 #96

That myth is prevalent, but wrong Recursion May 2013 #102

You know what is funny about your "work" here. bvar22 May 2013 #106

I wasn't here in 2003 Recursion May 2013 #107

You must have had an opinion. bvar22 May 2013 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 May 2013 #36

What does that have to do with the subject of the article? Doctor_J May 2013 #83

K&R DeSwiss May 2013 #18

Very few in our party care so long as it's our party doing it... Demo_Chris May 2013 #39

I care as Kelvin Mace May 2013 #42

Well, I am a hypocrit no question. There is probably NO moral failing I don't commit every day... Demo_Chris May 2013 #45

Absol-freakin-lutely Kelvin Mace May 2013 #49

Here;s Holder's Letter: WillyT May 2013 #52

Scumbags deserved it tabasco May 2013 #58

Actually graham4anything could well be a Tom Tomorrow character Doctor_J May 2013 #84

An American Teenager disidoro01 May 2013 #64

Yikes gopiscrap May 2013 #70

K&R Solly Mack May 2013 #71

so Obama admits to murdering Americans.....fuck the Constitution. bowens43 May 2013 #76

Yes, and all with the New And Improved..... DeSwiss May 2013 #88

+1000000000000000 woo me with science May 2013 #90

. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #78

"Citizen" or not....you're fair game michigandem58 May 2013 #87

Proof? davidthegnome May 2013 #93

There's potential for Presidential abuse michigandem58 May 2013 #97

It is exactly that sort of logic... davidthegnome May 2013 #99

I have no doubt, John2 May 2013 #101

Were you as big a fan of the Unitary Executive when Bush was wielding these powers? bvar22 May 2013 #108

A few points michigandem58 May 2013 #104

Sad that it takes the death of a few Americans to get people to pay attention... Locut0s May 2013 #111

Obama Administration Admits to Dronning US Citizens...How Many? circlethesquare May 2013 #113