If you go back to where we started chatting you'll see I want NOTHING to do with Syria. We can't figure out who the good guys are over there - the ones who want to overthrow al Assad AND want a secular democracy and not turn back the clock on women and minority rights so why you're asking me about force? That doesn't mean I can't call a shithole a shithole. I'm still allowed an opinion and can scream it from the rooftops if I see fit and I have no problem calling our flawed republic far superior to anything run by sharia law. I see what happens to women in sharia run countries and my stomach turns and the only thing I want to do is arm all the women - heavily.