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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 03:57 PM Jun 2013

Obama sponsored bill that would have made Verizon order illegal [View all]

Source: The Hill

President Obama co-sponsored legislation when he was a member of the Senate that would have banned the mass collection of phone records that his administration is now engaged in.

The SAFE Act, introduced by former Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho), would have amended the Patriot Act to require that the government have "specific and articulable facts" to show that a person is an "agent of a foreign power" before seizing their phone records.

The bill was referred to the Judiciary Committee in 2005, but never received a vote. It had 15 co-sponsors in all, including then-Sens. John Kerry (D-Mass.) and Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), who are now members of Obama’s Cabinet.

Experts said the bill that Obama supported in the Senate would have prohibited the sweeping surveillance that has come to light at the National Security Agency (NSA).



Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/303941-obama-sponsored-bill-that-would-have-banned-verizon-snooping

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So, he evolved? theaocp Jun 2013 #1
Devolution DJ13 Jun 2013 #5
Q: are we not men? frylock Jun 2013 #22
No! DJ13 Jun 2013 #30
Fierce Advocate blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #23
Bush's biggest flaws (besides his ideology) was the way he surrounded himself with people who were Freddie Stubbs Jun 2013 #38
so what made him change his mind? OKNancy Jun 2013 #2
What makes you think he changed his mind? hugo_from_TN Jun 2013 #12
Political expediency. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #24
It's different when you're the one with the power! marshall Jun 2013 #13
Abolish the Patriot Act sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #3
But the spooks run the show. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #25
LOL! President Obama put Candidate Obama on ice once the nomination was assured: Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #4
. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #10
I believe an important part of being liberal is being more reflective on yourself and your beliefs DuaneBidoux Jun 2013 #6
With all due respect rlegro Jun 2013 #28
Obama - "No more Illegal Wire Tapping of American Citizens" Purveyor Jun 2013 #7
Billing records are different than recording call content Paulie Jun 2013 #9
PRISM kinda makes you sound quaint there. n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #35
How so? News is saying PRISM is targeted against foreign calls Paulie Jun 2013 #36
"the NSA routinely collects a great deal of American content...described as incidental..." Psephos Jun 2013 #37
Are there accusations of "wiretapping"? My understanding is that only phone numbers were..... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #11
Yes DJ13 Jun 2013 #14
It would be lame if they weren't.. the NSA has to fill those yotabytes somehow jakeXT Jun 2013 #15
Hi Tarheel, Just FYI Obama Administration Defends NSA Collection Of Phone Record.. Cha Jun 2013 #17
"It relates exclusively to metadata, such as a telephone number or the length of a call". Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #18
Oh you just have to listen to Cha Jun 2013 #19
I guess he's still doing penance for that one! He's a Repuke poser! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #20
+1 - Greenwald is a putz Politicub Jun 2013 #32
You make a lot of sense. appacom Jun 2013 #33
+1. Welcome to DU. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #34
We should respect the distinction. However... rlegro Jun 2013 #29
Because of the Patriot Act, it's legal Politicub Jun 2013 #31
This was not a wire tap Freddie Stubbs Jun 2013 #39
Moment of zen rlegro Jun 2013 #8
Or he could have simply ordered the NSA not to pursue the court order. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #16
. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #26
Woulda, coulda, shoulda, blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #21
Larry Craig took a wide stance on the SAFE Act markiv Jun 2013 #27
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