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JDPriestly

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74. The program chills speech.

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:06 PM

Jun 2013

It would be helpful if the government sent us a list of whatever it is that they consider to be searches, calls, etc. that they question. We need more specifics and more precise wording in the laws if this is to be done.

That is what I object to and always have objected to about the Patriot Act. The language, for example, that defines a "terrorist" is vague and broad. How is a person to know whether or not he might come under suspicion under the Patriot Act?

Did Dianne Feinstein every got to law school? She seems ignorant about certain basic concepts.

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Obama Defends Surveillance Programs as Legal and Limited [View all] onehandle Jun 2013 OP

Good ol' openness and transparency! Good ol' hope and change! villager Jun 2013 #1

Did you even hear what he said? still_one Jun 2013 #5

I heard he denounced the scrutiny applied to the Tea Party usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #90

Corporate government dictatorship enabling at the highest level ...nice. L0oniX Jun 2013 #2

Obummer PSPS Jun 2013 #3

Now were using freeper lingo on DU? bunnies Jun 2013 #6

There are a bunch of DUers who FReep with the best of the Rim Jobs. n/t BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #8

And they seem to be feeling free to wave that flag rather proudly... bunnies Jun 2013 #13

Yep Andy823 Jun 2013 #44

Vote suppression. bunnies Jun 2013 #50

Is It Me RobinA Jun 2013 #67

^^^THIS^^^. premium Jun 2013 #75

Emphatically agree! appacom Jun 2013 #87

No it is not nice Generic Other Jun 2013 #16

wow. bunnies Jun 2013 #20

Ya wow Generic Other Jun 2013 #23

Maybe I can have you kicked off DU? bunnies Jun 2013 #27

How would I know I have never been there before Generic Other Jun 2013 #28

Uhm. I think you'd be in the minority here... bunnies Jun 2013 #33

You do a very good impression of Senator McCarthy Generic Other Jun 2013 #34

Personal attacks now? bunnies Jun 2013 #36

It's all about you now? Wrong. It's about speaking truth to power. n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #45

Geezus. bunnies Jun 2013 #47

Read this, and see if you can identify who said it. Psephos Jun 2013 #51

So you condone using RW smears then? bunnies Jun 2013 #53

No, but you are unable to divorce yourself from that trope. Psephos Jun 2013 #55

Do you not understand that the freeper bs is the only thing I was addressing? bunnies Jun 2013 #57

Freepers do not have a monopoly on words of contention. Psephos Jun 2013 #58

"Obummer" is not a freeper word? bunnies Jun 2013 #59

You sound like those vuvuzela guys - one note, and you keep blowing the horn. Psephos Jun 2013 #61

If I didnt need to keep repeating myself... bunnies Jun 2013 #62

Look, I realize YOU think it's RW smears. Others legitimately don't. Psephos Jun 2013 #64

Risked his life to tell us something we already knew? bunnies Jun 2013 #69

That story is so obsolete. The new revelations go way, way beyond it. Psephos Jun 2013 #72

"take the red pill, bunnies" bunnies Jun 2013 #78

*bunnies* Psephos Jun 2013 #83

Thanks Psephos. bunnies Jun 2013 #84

bunnies, you have earned my respect as a *true* liberal thinker Psephos Jun 2013 #89

The narrow focus on the verizon leak Jesus Malverde Jun 2013 #91

lol Never thought I'd say this on DU, but - thank you Jesus! n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #93

Could you maybe address the substance and lay off about the tone and word choice? FiveGoodMen Jun 2013 #43

What substance did I not address? bunnies Jun 2013 #46

What you called freeper bullshit was a choice of words FiveGoodMen Jun 2013 #49

The choice of words was the only thing I commented on to begin with. bunnies Jun 2013 #52

Yeah, Well RobinA Jun 2013 #68

Well, don't worry, with people like you the tea party will win the next election and you won't have okaawhatever Jun 2013 #22

Oh yeah I am all about what's wrong with America Generic Other Jun 2013 #25

Totalitarian is not STORING phone records (not even with names, just numbers) to be used IF a warran okaawhatever Jun 2013 #30

A "warrant" issued by a secret court with no public record or knowledge. Psephos Jun 2013 #48

This is criminal. Obama is wrong. ocpagu Jun 2013 #54

Obummer is too kind for what i would want to call him. nt boilerbabe Jun 2013 #65

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck... n/t Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #17

ask republicans why none of them make a nice messageboard for Rs to post on? Sunlei Jun 2013 #19

I'm sure he has a good reason for looking at the phones Barackattack Jun 2013 #86

Currently a "breaking" banner at the top of NYT website - link - pinto Jun 2013 #4

He said in the press conference it was a debate that should have happen long ago, and it is good it still_one Jun 2013 #7

Congress is a commodity that can be bought and sold. nt valerief Jun 2013 #10

Exactly BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #11

Glad to see someone paying attention. JuniperLea Jun 2013 #12

now congress can't step up and blame the O, when it is now known the Rs voted for all of this. Sunlei Jun 2013 #21

Framed the program as a "balance" - Not wiretapping conversations, emails w/out probable cause and pinto Jun 2013 #24

Good... I hope he continues to use the bejesus out of the Patriot Act! JuniperLea Jun 2013 #9

^^^THIS^^^^ +infinity. n/t BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #14

Congress doesnt give two shits what we think. bunnies Jun 2013 #15

wow, well said n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #56

Obama Defends Surveillance Programs as Legal and Limited The CCC Jun 2013 #18

Obama Defends Surveillance Programs as Legal and Limited Denise21 Jun 2013 #26

"Obama is a lawyer he would do everything by the law" ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #32

Being "legal" still doesn't make it right. razorman Jun 2013 #38

Obama Defends Surveillance Programs as Legal and Limited Denise21 Jun 2013 #40

RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!1 frylock Jun 2013 #42

Tough question: what reason exists to take Obama at his word? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #29

about what? Sunlei Jun 2013 #37

Agreed, but completely beside the point. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #39

It's not 'his' program (please read everything) and yes I think President O is an honest man. Sunlei Jun 2013 #41

None as far as I'm concerned. forestpath Jun 2013 #63

Big Brother is still watching us. Orwell was a prophet. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #31

Meaningless words. There is no "discussion" when NSA is doing exactly what Obama wants it to do and MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #35

We are counted on to just take it Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #66

I have no reason to believe Obama is lying, and WeekendWarrior Jun 2013 #60

It's Not About Privacy RobinA Jun 2013 #70

They appear to be neither legal nor limited CanonRay Jun 2013 #71

This coming from a guy that thinks killing people with drones is A-O-K. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #73

The program chills speech. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #74

Now, that is humorous. I'd like a tall glass of chilled speech, please. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #77

Google "chilled speech." JDPriestly Jun 2013 #81

What's that you say? You mean Obama didn't destroy Social Security again? MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #76

My bet ... JoePhilly Jun 2013 #80

Very disappointed with Obama right now qanda Jun 2013 #79

All Occupiers� phones were logged Babel_17 Jun 2013 #82

It will be resolved, but the corporations that have had our data for years have no oversight. freshwest Jun 2013 #85

Obama Defends Surveillance Programs as Legal and Limited blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #88

Was there a warrant? underpants Jun 2013 #92