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Eleanors38

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57. Thanks for the link..

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:28 AM

Jun 2013

I am aware elk are native; the trick is getting them re-established in areas from which they were extirpated. This is being effectively done by hunting organizations. Further success can be seen with re-establishment of native turkey species. Mixed success with Texas Big Horn sheep and pronghorns. I supported and continue to support these efforts, including wolves.

I also support regulated sport hunting, including for wolves.

Diseases like CWD come about due to concentrations of a species over a small area. This can happen with game animal breeding, it can happen with "natural" concentrations, esp. On suburban landscapes and other "edge" habitat.
I often follow the advice of local wardens: kill female whitetails to reduce growth; young bucks to encourage growth in post-population crash conditions.

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Gray Wolves No Longer Need Federal Protection, Obama Administration Says [View all] IDemo Jun 2013 OP

This makes me mad, and I've told the Democratic Party this when they call. yardwork Jun 2013 #1

okay now Obama has made me mad PatrynXX Jun 2013 #5

Wonder how much Ted Nugent bribed Obama for that one PatrynXX Jun 2013 #7

count me as one really angry conservationist and friend of wildlife, too wordpix Jun 2013 #44

Who profits from this? Crow73 Jun 2013 #2

Yep, nothing happens unless some rich guy is getting richer from it. nt valerief Jun 2013 #3

That is how reailty works. Crow73 Jun 2013 #4

I hear Sarah Palin is starting a wolf killing from helicopter company. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #6

Hopefully Ashley Judd is around PatrynXX Jun 2013 #9

I think ranchers and hunters. alp227 Jun 2013 #14

rich hunters and guides, rich ranchers who lease federal land nearly for free.... wordpix Jun 2013 #45

'game hunter' near yellowstone put sheep out there then got his 2 free wolf permits Sunlei Jun 2013 #50

Great news! Freddie Stubbs Jun 2013 #8

I anxiously await the blue links that tell us BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #10

??? onpatrol98 Jun 2013 #31

And Precious. freshwest Jun 2013 #38

no he is mocking the obama defenders who are always claiming that boilerbabe Jun 2013 #40

I don't think any offense was intended. tblue Jun 2013 #62

I thought they liked all people - especially with lemon pepper.... 24601 Jun 2013 #78

Maybe Obama's telegraphing that the "Grey Wolves" in Turkey don't need "protection" any more... cascadiance Jun 2013 #11

So upsetting! eom pitbullgirl1965 Jun 2013 #12

Is this good or bad news? If wolf populations really have recovered totodeinhere Jun 2013 #13

wolves tardybar Jun 2013 #15

Too late, that's been going on for the last 2 years in life long demo Jun 2013 #20

Reallly? grantcart Jun 2013 #25

Yep.. pipoman Jun 2013 #41

What? Grantcart and Pipoman bringing facts to a DU hate fest? Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #52

Annie, get yer gun! WinkyDink Jun 2013 #16

cue the cowards to come out shooting Skittles Jun 2013 #17

We have learned so little ..... Botany Jun 2013 #18

Absolutely beautiful picture life long demo Jun 2013 #23

Sweet Jesus. I'm at a loss for words........ neverforget Jun 2013 #19

This is so sad and so wrong life long demo Jun 2013 #21

They'll be on the terrorist target list before the year is out. rug Jun 2013 #22

Everyday I'm hating this plutocracy a bit more. Doremus Jun 2013 #24

Well, we no longer need 4th Amendment protection either, according to this same villager Jun 2013 #26

Unfortunately this is the way the ESA works Scootaloo Jun 2013 #27

No, they operate through blanket re-establishment pipoman Jun 2013 #48

I am not surprised to find so many knee jerk reactions without any effort to find out the facts. grantcart Jun 2013 #28

Maybe humans could stop hunting them (the elk)? flvegan Jun 2013 #29

I think you have the idea of population balance reversed. grantcart Jun 2013 #33

Yes, the human culling of elves. flvegan Jun 2013 #34

"a cull is never humane" grantcart Jun 2013 #59

Thank you for the compliment. flvegan Jun 2013 #68

Again you missed the point of the Badger Cull completely. grantcart Jun 2013 #73

Fact free outrage, LTX Jun 2013 #90

I want to know more about hunting 'elves'... Bay Boy Jun 2013 #60

Please don't hunt the elves!!!!! tblue Jun 2013 #63

I fucking hate elves Redford Jun 2013 #93

Exactly and well said pipoman Jun 2013 #42

Thank us for killing you. Thanks. n/t flvegan Jun 2013 #72

Overpopulation of wildlife ultimately devastates the populations.. pipoman Jun 2013 #74

there is no overpopulation of wolves, your argument is baseless CreekDog Jun 2013 #85

Maybe you should have someone who can read help you out with this subthread, eh? pipoman Jun 2013 #86

Since when did a "proposal" mean something has happened already? CreekDog Jun 2013 #87

Resorting to insults is the meme of the irrelevant.. pipoman Jun 2013 #88

before my post you said I couldn't read CreekDog Jun 2013 #91

And your post #85 called me ignorant and pipoman Jun 2013 #92

because on this topic you are CreekDog Jun 2013 #95

"On this topic you are" pipoman Jun 2013 #96

Grantcart talks about the "culling of elves" CreekDog Jun 2013 #84

Wolves eat elks. East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #30

How about using science to determine optimum population levels and allow for grantcart Jun 2013 #32

WTF????? Brewinblue Jun 2013 #35

Great parody of the Cato Institute. East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #39

don't lecture us on science when you just talked about the controlling and culling wolf populations CreekDog Jun 2013 #64

looks like you failed as an environmentalist CreekDog Jun 2013 #79

so we can't let a native predator eat it's native prey? CreekDog Jun 2013 #36

Nobody said that.. pipoman Jun 2013 #46

please explain the overpopulation of wolves on this map CreekDog Jun 2013 #65

homo sapiens are the native predator of wolves. grantcart Jun 2013 #81

and you are telling us with a straight face that of the two, wolves are too numerous? CreekDog Jun 2013 #82

let's get the facts straight in talking about population: It's humans who are overpopulating wordpix Jun 2013 #49

All species tend to over populate. Do you have a point? Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #58

you mean like whales, elephants, wolves, condors, etc.? CreekDog Jun 2013 #66

If they are not over hunted (as the Japanese are doing), Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #70

+1 n/t Aquavit Jun 2013 #71

Good. The elk herds were doing serious damage NickB79 Jun 2013 #75

This is true.. pipoman Jun 2013 #77

Both Wyoming & Montana Elk Numbers notundecided Jun 2013 #80

Of course treestar Jun 2013 #76

Felicity Barringer is Glenn Greenwald's nom de plume? East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #97

That means we can get Gray Wolf Tacos soon! Hooray! Kablooie Jun 2013 #37

The Feds manage wildlife. States micro-manage wildlife. pipoman Jun 2013 #43

O.is a greenhorn & easy to snooker..it's chronic wasting disease (gamefarms) and clim. change Sunlei Jun 2013 #47

There are now thousands of elk in Kentucky. How did they get there? Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #54

no, chronic wasting disease is a prion disease and elk are a native species. Sunlei Jun 2013 #56

Thanks for the link.. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #57

what kind of shot is used when hunting? CreekDog Jun 2013 #67

Depends on the game and locale... Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #69

Just because Jenoch Jun 2013 #51

Maybe we should turn the gray wolves loose on the criminals in charge of the NSA. Faryn Balyncd Jun 2013 #53

Great NY Times article here ---> QC Jun 2013 #55

I think this is wrong but would welcome anyone showing that Im the one that's wrong. Leontius Jun 2013 #61

Anything to save money Franker65 Jun 2013 #83

DOI has never been gone over by this admin for fraud and waste! Sunlei Jun 2013 #89

For the life of me, panzerfaust Jun 2013 #94