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Comrade Grumpy

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Mon Jun 10, 2013, 02:05 AM Jun 2013

White House Close to Decision on Arming Syrian Rebels [View all]

Last edited Mon Jun 10, 2013, 03:04 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: Associated Press

Moved by the Assad regime's rapid advance, the Obama administration could decide this week to approve lethal aid for the beleaguered Syrian rebels and will weigh the merits of a less likely move to send in U.S. air power to enforce a no-fly zone over the civil war-wracked nation, officials told The Associated Press Sunday.

White House meetings are planned over the coming days, as Syrian President Bashar Assad's government forces are apparently poised for an attack on the key city of Homs, which could cut off Syria's armed opposition from the south of the country. As many as 5,000 Hezbollah fighters are now in Syria, officials believe, helping the regime press on with its campaign after capturing the town of Qusair near the Lebanese border last week.

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While nothing has been concretely decided, U.S. officials said President Barack Obama was leaning closer toward signing off on sending weapons to vetted, moderate rebel units. The U.S. has spoken of possibly arming the opposition in recent months but has been hesitant because it doesn't want to al Qaeda-linked and other extremists fighting alongside the anti-Assad militias to end up with the weapons. Obama already has ruled out any intervention that would require U.S. military boots on the ground. Other options such as deploying American air power to ground the regime's jets, gunships and other aerial assets are now being more seriously debated, the officials said, while cautioning that a no-fly zone or any other action involving U.S. military deployments in Syria were far less likely right now.

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Any intervention could have wide-reaching ramifications for the United States and the region. It would bring the U.S. closer to a conflict that has killed almost 80,000 people since Assad cracked down on protesters inspired by the Arab Spring in March 2011 and sparked a war that has since been increasingly defined by sectarian clashes between the Sunni-led rebellion and Assad's Alawite-dominated regime. And it would essentially pit the United States alongside regional allies Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar in a proxy war against Iran, which is providing much of the materiel to the Syrian government's counterinsurgency and, through Hezbollah, more and more of the manpower.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57588416/ap-white-house-close-to-decision-on-arming-syria-rebels/



We need to stay the hell out of this lethal clusterfuck.

The rebels are a bad joke. Al Nusra is fighting with Al Qaeda in Iraq over who gets Zawahiri's imprimatur. In addition to fighting each other, the jihadis are fighting with non-jihadi rebels. The Free Syrian Army is largely a fiction; a bunch of operationally indpendent armed bands, with loyalty going to whoever can supply them with more money and more guns.

The Syrian political opposition is similarly fractured.

If you like how Libya has turned out, you're gonna love Syria.
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Ummm..."armying?" Archae Jun 2013 #1
it could actually be a cool new word Skittles Jun 2013 #2
My bad. I fixed it. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #4
Actually, I like it as it was. Archae Jun 2013 #5
This gives me the same groovy feeling as the run-up to Iraq. delrem Jun 2013 #3
Well it's one way of changing the nation's focus! Boo! As awful as this snappyturtle Jun 2013 #6
Let's just leave Syria to the Syrians. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #7
I actually talked with Obama specifically about this a year ago DFW Jun 2013 #8
A "wholesale slaughter" shaayecanaan Jun 2013 #9
It doesn't take balls to confront syria, it takes stupidity.. bowens43 Jun 2013 #11
41,000 of the 80,000 Syrians killed are Alawite. "The dictator" killed them all? leveymg Jun 2013 #13
One of those was John2 Jun 2013 #19
How come we never heard about her here in America? leveymg Jun 2013 #21
Because the John2 Jun 2013 #27
Yara Abbas wasn't blond, but she was BRAVE. Jesus Malverde Jun 2013 #41
Very brave. leveymg Jun 2013 #46
Bullshit shaayecanaan Jun 2013 #50
Probably not. Xithras Jun 2013 #52
So, in other words, 100% of the government dead are Alawite? shaayecanaan Jun 2013 #53
Probably not 100%, but a substantial majority. Xithras Jun 2013 #54
This is just more ignorance... shaayecanaan Jun 2013 #55
First of all, John2 Jun 2013 #15
All your post is bad propaganda. Sand Wind Jun 2013 #16
I can understand, John2 Jun 2013 #18
The only one who should be providing sources here is you. Daniel537 Jun 2013 #32
It is no less, John2 Jun 2013 #36
Here are the sources for the claim that most Syrians killed are Alawite. leveymg Jun 2013 #39
Again, complete bullshit... shaayecanaan Jun 2013 #51
Alawites are being killed in disproportionate numbers. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #56
Is there any good propaganda? leveymg Jun 2013 #23
As you know, good or bad can have an another meaning than the moral perspective Sand Wind Jun 2013 #28
Oh, you mean entertaining propaganda. leveymg Jun 2013 #37
Great propaganda, I mean clever, but boring. I just cant stand your 'debate'. Sand Wind Jun 2013 #57
It depends on John2 Jun 2013 #38
The regime in Libya didn't have wholesale support from Putin. Assad does, always has. DFW Jun 2013 #30
completly off topic sdrake Jun 2013 #12
At the end of Kurosawa's film and the American spinoff, they are the closing words DFW Jun 2013 #29
Of course its going to happen , if there's a wrong decision to be made, Obama's the man do to it. bowens43 Jun 2013 #10
And that is why he John2 Jun 2013 #20
I don't think Obama has crossed that line at all. David__77 Jun 2013 #47
Stay. The Fuck. Out Of It. n/t TheBadWolf Jun 2013 #14
Amen. 7962 Jun 2013 #26
Here's an analysis of the options, from someone I trust ... Scuba Jun 2013 #17
There is other information, John2 Jun 2013 #22
So how would that create a good option? Scuba Jun 2013 #24
If I have information John2 Jun 2013 #33
A couple words leveymg Jun 2013 #40
Fair enough, John2 Jun 2013 #44
Thanks for that. leveymg Jun 2013 #45
I've been checking John2 Jun 2013 #49
Sounds bad, but let THEM have at it. None of them really want us around anyway. 7962 Jun 2013 #25
Whoever We Are Arming RobinA Jun 2013 #31
gee....what could possibly go wrong? madrchsod Jun 2013 #34
Did they ask the taxpayers who pay for those arms? Hubert Flottz Jun 2013 #35
Hey it worked in Afghanistan back in the 80's Marrah_G Jun 2013 #42
This is going to be epic fail Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #43
That would be a violation of international law and a war crime. Coyotl Jun 2013 #48
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