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DFW

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8. I actually talked with Obama specifically about this a year ago
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 04:10 AM
Jun 2013

I met with him for about an hour and Syria was one of the subjects that came up. It was to be off the record until the election, but that was in November. I don't think I'm revealing any deep dark secret here:

Obama said that Syria was a nasty civil war where we had no friends among the combatants. He said that in 2010 there might have been a chance to avoid major carnage if the Russians had been willing to cooperate, but as they had too big a client in Assad, they weren't interested. He said Syria would play itself out, end badly with no real winner, and we would lose no matter what if we got involved.

I think he had a very realistic grasp of the situation then, and I can imagine that humanitarian questions about avoiding a wholesale slaughter are the only ones that might push him toward any involvement at all now. He certainly wants no part of it. He knows in advance, like the survivors of "The Seven Samurai," that if we do get involved, "we lose again. We always lose."

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Ummm..."armying?" Archae Jun 2013 #1
it could actually be a cool new word Skittles Jun 2013 #2
My bad. I fixed it. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #4
Actually, I like it as it was. Archae Jun 2013 #5
This gives me the same groovy feeling as the run-up to Iraq. delrem Jun 2013 #3
Well it's one way of changing the nation's focus! Boo! As awful as this snappyturtle Jun 2013 #6
Let's just leave Syria to the Syrians. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #7
I actually talked with Obama specifically about this a year ago DFW Jun 2013 #8
A "wholesale slaughter" shaayecanaan Jun 2013 #9
It doesn't take balls to confront syria, it takes stupidity.. bowens43 Jun 2013 #11
41,000 of the 80,000 Syrians killed are Alawite. "The dictator" killed them all? leveymg Jun 2013 #13
One of those was John2 Jun 2013 #19
How come we never heard about her here in America? leveymg Jun 2013 #21
Because the John2 Jun 2013 #27
Yara Abbas wasn't blond, but she was BRAVE. Jesus Malverde Jun 2013 #41
Very brave. leveymg Jun 2013 #46
Bullshit shaayecanaan Jun 2013 #50
Probably not. Xithras Jun 2013 #52
So, in other words, 100% of the government dead are Alawite? shaayecanaan Jun 2013 #53
Probably not 100%, but a substantial majority. Xithras Jun 2013 #54
This is just more ignorance... shaayecanaan Jun 2013 #55
First of all, John2 Jun 2013 #15
All your post is bad propaganda. Sand Wind Jun 2013 #16
I can understand, John2 Jun 2013 #18
The only one who should be providing sources here is you. Daniel537 Jun 2013 #32
It is no less, John2 Jun 2013 #36
Here are the sources for the claim that most Syrians killed are Alawite. leveymg Jun 2013 #39
Again, complete bullshit... shaayecanaan Jun 2013 #51
Alawites are being killed in disproportionate numbers. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #56
Is there any good propaganda? leveymg Jun 2013 #23
As you know, good or bad can have an another meaning than the moral perspective Sand Wind Jun 2013 #28
Oh, you mean entertaining propaganda. leveymg Jun 2013 #37
Great propaganda, I mean clever, but boring. I just cant stand your 'debate'. Sand Wind Jun 2013 #57
It depends on John2 Jun 2013 #38
The regime in Libya didn't have wholesale support from Putin. Assad does, always has. DFW Jun 2013 #30
completly off topic sdrake Jun 2013 #12
At the end of Kurosawa's film and the American spinoff, they are the closing words DFW Jun 2013 #29
Of course its going to happen , if there's a wrong decision to be made, Obama's the man do to it. bowens43 Jun 2013 #10
And that is why he John2 Jun 2013 #20
I don't think Obama has crossed that line at all. David__77 Jun 2013 #47
Stay. The Fuck. Out Of It. n/t TheBadWolf Jun 2013 #14
Amen. 7962 Jun 2013 #26
Here's an analysis of the options, from someone I trust ... Scuba Jun 2013 #17
There is other information, John2 Jun 2013 #22
So how would that create a good option? Scuba Jun 2013 #24
If I have information John2 Jun 2013 #33
A couple words leveymg Jun 2013 #40
Fair enough, John2 Jun 2013 #44
Thanks for that. leveymg Jun 2013 #45
I've been checking John2 Jun 2013 #49
Sounds bad, but let THEM have at it. None of them really want us around anyway. 7962 Jun 2013 #25
Whoever We Are Arming RobinA Jun 2013 #31
gee....what could possibly go wrong? madrchsod Jun 2013 #34
Did they ask the taxpayers who pay for those arms? Hubert Flottz Jun 2013 #35
Hey it worked in Afghanistan back in the 80's Marrah_G Jun 2013 #42
This is going to be epic fail Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #43
That would be a violation of international law and a war crime. Coyotl Jun 2013 #48
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