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happyslug

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26. This article is about a 10 year old and a 16 year old boy, not a girl in school
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 02:10 PM
Jun 2013

I have to accept the fact that the Taliban has shot girls for going to school, but so did the Contras in Nicaragua in the 1980s (The Contras shot anyone going to school, but that includes girls by definition). There are reports of teachers being killed by the Viet Cong during the Tet Offensive of 1968 (The report is quite clear, the Viet Cong, once they took a city, went to all the teacher's home and ordered them to report to a central location, where they were all shot).

All of the above was done for the same reason, to show locals that they can NOT depend on the Government for anything, including protection and education. A secondary reason is such teachers tend to be under the control of the Government and thus agents of the Government whose mission is to report ANYTHING that is against the Government.

Killing of Teachers is a well known guerrilla activity against a government they oppose. The Government of Afghanistan seems NOT to interfere with the traditional education of boys in Afghanistan (and most of that seems to be heavy infiltrated by Taliban supporters) and being traditional not a threat to the Taliban nor indications of support for the Government. Thus education of women is new for education of women was rare in Afghanistan (Except under Soviet Influence, now long gone AND education by their Mothers and other female relatives, which was the norm in most of Afghanistan even during Soviet Times). Thus the various efforts to educate Afghan women are viewed as an attack on the Taliban (and attacks on girls going to such schools, are attacks on the Government).

Now, the above is true of Afghanistan, but we are talking about TWO BOYS BEHEADED ON A DUMP. That has NOTHING to do with the Taliban attitude to the education of women. Something else is afoot with this killing and it appears to be a some sort of warning to other about something to do with that dump. I mention my thoughts on the dump above and will NOT re-list them here, but this involves something other then the education of women, what it is is unknown but has little to do with the education of women and the Taliban's attack on women.

Side note: I use the term "Soviet times" in the above paragraph. Joseph Stalin made the last King of Afghanistan, King on Afghanistan just before his own death. Why? Stalin knew that Afghanistan was a tribal land that would be hard to suppress, so he left it alone and put a king in charge who would keep the local busy and out of his hair. That position was maintained till the 1970s when hard liners in the Soviet Union decided that having a kingdom within the Soviet Empire was unacceptable. These hard liners decided to move Afghanistan into the 20th century and ran into the problems Stalin had foreseen and avoided. This lead to unrest in Afghanistan, an overthrowing of the King by pro-soviet groups, then more unrest, then a full scale invasion, and more unrest and then the slow drawn out guerrilla war the Soviet Union fought in Afghanistan in the 1980s.

Afghanistan had been in the obit of Russian Control since the Russian Empire moved in Central Asia in the 1800s (as England moved into Afghanistan to offset these advances, was driven out as the Afghan came to look to Russia for support against England). This control continued after the Revolutions of 1917. Thus by 1952 Afghanistan had long been under the influence of the Soviet Union. Thus when I use the term "Soviet Times" I mean the period from 1952 to 1989, when the Soviet Union was the single most important foreign influence in Afghanistan. That ended with the collapse both of the Soviet Union (in 1989) AND the Communist Government of Afghanistan (In 1992). Since that time period the greatest influence has been Pakistan (and maybe Saudi Arabia via Pakistan). Only since the American Invasion of 2002 has American influence come close to those two.

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Inhumane. Boomerproud Jun 2013 #1
Disturbing story, but this typo made me laugh: ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #2
I noticed that too... KansDem Jun 2013 #3
It should have been the 10-year-old boy. n/t RebelOne Jun 2013 #5
Maybe they Turbineguy Jun 2013 #4
The Taliban Visited George H.W. Bush many times. red dog 1 Jun 2013 #6
What does that have to do with this? leftynyc Jun 2013 #23
Actually, I'm blaming both the Bush 41 AND Bush 43 Administrations for this disgusting bahavior red dog 1 Jun 2013 #29
Blaming the bush's for the leftynyc Jun 2013 #30
Calling me names does not validate your argument red dog 1 Jun 2013 #34
Awwww, poor baby doesn't like leftynyc Jun 2013 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author red dog 1 Jun 2013 #38
Why would the Taliban do this?? happyslug Jun 2013 #7
Religious fanatics rarely care about what's advisable shawn703 Jun 2013 #8
yes. Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #10
What has this killing to do with religion????? happyslug Jun 2013 #12
As a warning to villagers not to co-operate with the Afghan government oberliner Jun 2013 #9
That might be the reason, but at a dump? happyslug Jun 2013 #13
What do you think is more probable? oberliner Jun 2013 #15
You have my two theories. happyslug Jun 2013 #16
Interesting oberliner Jun 2013 #24
Based on my own experience AND other news reports happyslug Jun 2013 #25
Gotcha oberliner Jun 2013 #28
It doesn't surprise me at all Marrah_G Jun 2013 #11
I do not know if you talking about the Taliban or our Afghan Allies happyslug Jun 2013 #14
So, your position is that though barbaric and monstrous, the geek tragedy Jun 2013 #17
A school girl or any children attending a school Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #18
This article is about a 10 year old and a 16 year old boy, not a girl in school happyslug Jun 2013 #26
I agree booley Jun 2013 #36
Bacha bazi (kept boys) from the military checkpoint or Talabin military? Sunlei Jun 2013 #19
That seems more likely Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #20
Yes, could be. How horrible to treat children this way. freshwest Jun 2013 #22
To young and to old. happyslug Jun 2013 #27
not in Afghanistan. boys are removed from homes, moved to the 'military areas very young to 'train' Sunlei Jun 2013 #32
Wikipedia is a good start on any research, but you have to be careful with it. happyslug Jun 2013 #33
looks like a 'respect' issue quadrature Jun 2013 #21
religion makes me blow chunks. nt boilerbabe Jun 2013 #31
And normal military operations are AOK?? happyslug Jun 2013 #37
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